Chiefs Would Haley/Weis ever consider Croyle instead of Cassel? - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 06-13-2010, 01:57 PM

Croyle is good for gauging the status of the Chiefs' starting quarterback, though.

If someone is pining for Croyle, you know the starter is garbage.

Red Brooklyn · 06-13-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Yeah, if it was actually up to them.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think that Croyle is the more talented QB and will definitely make leaps and bounds under the tutelage of Charlie Weis.

But unless Cassel struggles to the point where he's directly responsible for multiple losses, Croyle won't see the field except in the case of injury, IMO.

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Thig Lyfe · 06-13-2010, 02:02 PM

It's really too bad about Croyle. If not for being made of porcelain, I think he'd be a very good quarterback.

Pablo · 06-13-2010, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

It's really too bad about Croyle. If not for being made of porcelain, I think he'd be a very good quarterback.

Porcelain's far too sturdy of a material to be compared to Croyle.

Coogs · 06-13-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SportsRacer

It's really too bad about Croyle. If not for being made of porcelain, I think he'd be a very good quarterback.

Rules are stated to leave the injury piece out of the equation.

**Bugeater** · 06-13-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Rules are stated to leave the injury piece out of the equation.

Well hell, if we're leaving reality out of the equation, we may as well talk about a possible trade for Peyton Manning. What do you think we would have to give up to get him?

Pablo · 06-13-2010, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

Rules are stated to leave the injury piece out of the equation.

Yeah, but what happens when he bangs his wrist on his lineman's shoulder pads and shatters it?

That's likely to happen.

mcaj22 · 06-13-2010, 02:16 PM

You can't knock this guy except that he's injury prone. Every one hypes that Moaeki tight end around here and he's just as injury prone and has never even played an NFL down yet.

The thing is with Croyle, is that he gave the best QB play for us last season in one game, week 1, against a team that went on to be one of the best teams in the league. I'm just saying if Croyle had week 1 what Cassel had in the ending weeks with the emergence of Jamaal Charles and a little bit better defensive play, Croyle sets the bar high by beating that Ravens team. But instead Croyle had Larry Johnson, Bobby Engram and Mark Bradley to work with Week 1 and STILL managed to do a serviceable job where it was at least competitive enough to watch as a fan, even though we lost. That game was a lot better than the dumpster performances that followed for the next 15 games, especially from the QB position.

I think if we start off 0-4 or 0-5 this season how can they not play Croyle? Haley's coaching and this system does seem like something his arm can be great in. It's a shame is body is built like a glass house.

For the record I'm not Croyle fan boy or am siding with what QB should play. I want the best QB out that can throw the best football, if it comes down to OTA reports on how Croyle continues to throw "lazers with smoke coming off of them" regardless if they are intercepted or not, I'd take that arm in passing situations over the floaters and hanging WRs out to dry that Cassel throws. If Cassel's arm improves come the start of the season than this rant/point is moot. If not, I want the best cannon in there, no different than I want the best RB in there that can actually hit a hole like last season when it came down to LJ and JC.

Look at this way, if Croyle was one of the "bad/shit" Herm players, Haley and the gang would have cut his ass long ago like they have most of the dead weight already. They can't just let him go, some team will pick him up in an instant and he could end up playing well for them, boy wouldn't that be a ****ing kick in the ass. Croyle's arm is what guarantees him a roster spot on this team.

Hammock Parties · 06-13-2010, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

The thing is with Croyle, is that he gave the best QB play for us last season in one game, week 1, against a team that went on to be one of the best teams in the league.

Not really. Cassel's game against Cleveland was better.

But Croyle did a good job of not ****ing up the game against Baltimore. That's what he does. He's just good enough to lose close games.

mcaj22 · 06-13-2010, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Not really. Cassel's game against Cleveland was better.

But Croyle did a good job of not ****ing up the game against Baltimore. That's what he does. He's just good enough to lose close games.

Yo, you just compared Croyle's WEEK 1 OPENING SEASON game against one of the top 3 teams in the AFC last season to Cassel's performance against the CLEVELAND ****ING BROWNS.

Think about what you are saying for a minute...

Cassel was 55 percent passing that game with a 99 QB rating and had JC run for 154 yards to HELP that passing performance, against one of two teams that were worse than us defensively last year, and CASSEL STILL COULDNT WIN THE GAME.

CROYLE was 66.7 percent passing with 116.1 QB rating in a game where LARRY JOHNSON RUNS FOR 20 ****ING YARDS against one of the top 5 defenses in the whole league.

I really hope you were just ball busting and weren't actually serious, so that this post can just make me look silly.

-King- · 06-13-2010, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

Yo, you just compared Croyle's WEEK 1 OPENING SEASON game against one of the top 3 teams in the AFC last season to Cassel's performance against the CLEVELAND ****ING BROWNS.

Think about what you are saying for a minute...

Cassel was 55 percent passing that game with a 99 QB rating and had JC run for 154 yards to HELP that passing performance, against one of two teams that were worse than us defensively last year, and CASSEL STILL COULDNT WIN THE GAME.

CROYLE was 66.7 percent passing with 116.1 QB rating in a game where LARRY JOHNSON RUNS FOR 20 ****ING YARDS against one of the top 5 defenses in the whole league.

I really hope you were just ball busting and weren't actually serious, so that this post can just make me look silly.

Cassel had a pretty good game against the Cowboys.
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Hammock Parties · 06-13-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

Yo, you just compared Croyle's WEEK 1 OPENING SEASON game against one of the top 3 teams in the AFC last season to Cassel's performance against the CLEVELAND ****ING BROWNS.

Think about what you are saying for a minute...

I realize what you are saying. I'm just saying purely from a production standpoint, Cassel was more impressive against the Browns. Croyle was fairly pedestrian against Baltimore.

Croyle has never had a game like Cassel had against Cleveland.

**BigMeatballDave** · 06-13-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Not really. Cassel's game against Cleveland was better.

But Croyle did a good job of not ****ing up the game against Baltimore. That's what he does. He's just good enough to lose close games.

Seriously? Sometimes you come off sounding like a ****ing moron.

**Shaid** · 06-13-2010, 02:20 PM

I think he would in a heartbeat if the injury issue was a non-issue.

Coogs · 06-13-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaid

I think he would in a heartbeat if the injury issue was a non-issue.

If the line play and the RB situation continues to improve, Croyles health risk should also go down. And if the WR's and TE's add to that equation, it should even reduce the risk further.

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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	You can't knock this guy except that he's injury prone. Every one hypes that Moaeki tight end around here and he's just as injury prone and has never even played an NFL down yet. The thing is with Croyle, is that he gave the best QB play for us last season in one game, week 1, against a team that went on to be one of the best teams in the league. I'm just saying if Croyle had week 1 what Cassel had in the ending weeks with the emergence of Jamaal Charles and a little bit better defensive play, Croyle sets the bar high by beating that Ravens team. But instead Croyle had Larry Johnson, Bobby Engram and Mark Bradley to work with Week 1 and STILL managed to do a serviceable job where it was at least competitive enough to watch as a fan, even though we lost. That game was a lot better than the dumpster performances that followed for the next 15 games, especially from the QB position. I think if we start off 0-4 or 0-5 this season how can they not play Croyle? Haley's coaching and this system does seem like something his arm can be great in. It's a shame is body is built like a glass house. For the record I'm not Croyle fan boy or am siding with what QB should play. I want the best QB out that can throw the best football, if it comes down to OTA reports on how Croyle continues to throw "lazers with smoke coming off of them" regardless if they are intercepted or not, I'd take that arm in passing situations over the floaters and hanging WRs out to dry that Cassel throws. If Cassel's arm improves come the start of the season than this rant/point is moot. If not, I want the best cannon in there, no different than I want the best RB in there that can actually hit a hole like last season when it came down to LJ and JC. Look at this way, if Croyle was one of the "bad/shit" Herm players, Haley and the gang would have cut his ass long ago like they have most of the dead weight already. They can't just let him go, some team will pick him up in an instant and he could end up playing well for them, boy wouldn't that be a ****ing kick in the ass. Croyle's arm is what guarantees him a roster spot on this team.
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