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**bevischief** · 09-06-2010, 02:33 PM

After the last few seasons 6+ wins and a defense would be nice.

Marcellus · 09-06-2010, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

6-10 is realistic for this team.

until we could prove to stop the run and get good qb play, I don't see us contending.

So you don't see us winning more than 2 more games than last year even though realistically this team SHOULD have won 6 and possibly 7 games last year and have improved the talent on both sides of the ball?

**Buck** · 09-06-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

So why do they barely manage to win most the time?...

Barely manage to win what?

The Chargers average margin of victory last year was 11.23 points.

The Chargers average games ahead of the 2nd place team in the division over the last 4 years is 3.5 games (thats including one year when they went 8-8 and so did the Broncos).

**Rausch** · 09-06-2010, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

So you don't see us winning more than 2 more games than last year even though realistically this team SHOULD have won 6 and possibly 7 games last year and have improved the talent on both sides of the ball?

I think 6 should be the expectation and 8-8 if we have no injuries and everything goes our way...

**Rausch** · 09-06-2010, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Barely manage to win what?

The Chargers average margin of victory last year was 11.23 points.

The Chargers average games ahead of the 2nd place team in the division over the last 4 years is 3.5 games (thats including one year when they went 8-8 and so did the Broncos).

While they have struggled to make the playoffs 1/2 the time and in one of the Chiefs worst seasons managed to beat them by a combined 3 pts.

The only reason the Chargers aren't looked at like the 90's Bills.....well......they choke WAY before the SB...

**Buck** · 09-06-2010, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

While they have struggled to make the playoffs 1/2 the time and in one of the Chiefs worst seasons managed to beat them by a combined 3 pts.

The only reason the Chargers aren't looked at like the 90's Bills.....well......they choke WAY before the SB...

They struggled to make the playoffs once in the last 4 years, and they won a playoff game when they got there.

And yes, they only won by 1 point against the Chiefs, but that was in their 8-8 season. It was a down year, yet they still made it to the playoffs and beat the Colts. You expect them to win EVERY game by 10 points?

**Rausch** · 09-06-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

They struggled to make the playoffs once in the last 4 years, and they won a playoff game when they got there.

And yes, they only won by 1 point against the Chiefs, but that was in their 8-8 season. It was a down year, yet they still made it to the playoffs and beat the Colts. You expect them to win EVERY game by 10 points?

No.

I expect them to step on their d!cks every single year like they have for the last 15...

**Buck** · 09-06-2010, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

No.

I expect them to step on their d!cks every single year like they have for the last 15...

Then what do you expect from the Chiefs????

Ebolapox · 09-06-2010, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Then what do you expect from the Chiefs????

with no QB? I expect almost nothing at all.

look at it like this: it's a QB-driven league. if you have a pro-bowl QB with weapons, you SHOULD go deep into the playoffs ever year. we haven't had that QB since my dad was still a teenager (early 70's). he's now 53 years old.

there is NO reason that they chargers suck as much ass as they do. in a weak division, with an all-world QB, you should be NO LESS THAN 12-4 every damned year. that you don't is the definition of choking.

**Buck** · 09-06-2010, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

with no QB? I expect almost nothing at all.

look at it like this: it's a QB-driven league. if you have a pro-bowl QB with weapons, you SHOULD go deep into the playoffs ever year. we haven't had that QB since my dad was still a teenager (early 70's). he's now 53 years old.

there is NO reason that they chargers suck as much ass as they do. in a weak division, with an all-world QB, you should be NO LESS THAN 12-4 every damned year. that you don't is the definition of choking.

14-2 (0-1)
11-5 (2-1)
8-8 (1-1)
13-3 (0-1)

Whatever dude. You could take a look at us and say that we will always choke in the playoffs, or you could look at history and see other teams that were in the same situation as us and actually won a Super Bowl later. Just because we've choked in the past doesn't mean it will happen this year. You can't write history before it happens. Anything could happen this year. Thats why you play the games.

**Rausch** · 09-06-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Then what do you expect from the Chiefs????

...

Ebolapox · 09-06-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

14-2 (0-1)
11-5 (2-1)
8-8 (1-1)
13-3 (0-1)

Whatever dude. You could take a look at us and say that we will always choke in the playoffs, or you could look at history and see other teams that were in the same situation as us and actually won a Super Bowl later. Just because we've choked in the past doesn't mean it will happen this year. You can't write history before it happens. Anything could happen this year. Thats why you play the games.

****, you've had drew brees, dan fouts AND phil rivers since the chiefs last won a super-bowl. wanna talk not fair?

and you still haven't won the big game. you had to have stan ****ing humphries to take you to the super bowl. jesus, have fun with that shit.

**Buck** · 09-06-2010, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

****, you've had drew brees, dan fouts AND phil rivers since the chiefs last won a super-bowl. wanna talk not fair?

and you still haven't won the big game. you had to have stan ****ing humphries to take you to the super bowl. jesus, have fun with that shit.

**** you. You've had Joe Montana, Trent Green, and TYLER THIGPEN SINCE THEN!

Ebolapox · 09-06-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

**** you. You've had Joe Montana, Trent Green, and TYLER THIGPEN SINCE THEN!

montana (two years), green (three years, and he wasn't really even as good as any of your three) and the skeleton ****er himself.

yeah, you obviously have a ton of material. we're chiefs fans: we can out-pathetic ANYBODY.

**Buck** · 09-06-2010, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

montana (two years), green (three years, and he wasn't really even as good as any of your three) and the skeleton ****er himself.

yeah, you obviously have a ton of material. we're chiefs fans: we can out-pathetic ANYBODY.

Drew Brees - Sucked Dick in 01-03, Had a good 04 season, Injured in 05
Philip Rivers - Good to great 4 years

Dan Fouts - I wasn't even alive when he was our starting QB, so I don't give a shit.

Ryan Leaf, Moses Moreno, Craig Wheelihan, Jim Harbaugh, Erik Kramer, Doug Flutie, Jim Everett, Stan Humphries, Sean Salisbury, Gale Gilbert, John Friesz, Bob Gagliano, Billy Joe Tolliver, Jim McMahon, Mark Malone, Babe Lufenberg, Mark Vlasic, Rick Neuheisel, Mark Herrmann, Mike Kelley

Those are all our Starting QBs since Dan Fouts, so you can get out of here with the QB pity.

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