Football Joe Montana shits on Rudy - Page 2

Hammock Parties · 11:45 PM

I love this.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf-268408

Biopic fans will be shocked – shocked! – to learn that Hollywood takes liberties with the real-life narratives and characters that often come to stand in for history in the popular imagination. In the case of the enduring 1993 hit "Rudy," the film was so unrecognizably warped beyond the existence of an undersized Notre Dame player who registered an improbable sack against Georgia Tech in 1975 that former Irish coach Dan Devine called certain scenes – notably the climactic moment when Rudy's teammates confront Devine's villainous character by handing in their jerseys to get Rudy on the dress list, and later his reluctance to actually put Rudy in the game – "unforgivable" and "a lie."

Hall of Famer Joe Montana, then a lowly freshman lingering somewhere on the depth chart, doesn't remember it quite as harshly. But as he told radio host Dan Patrick on Wednesday, he certainly doesn't remember any uplifting strings swelling in the rafters, either:

DP: Were you there when Rudy was there?

JM: Yeah. It's a movie, remember. Not all of that is true.

DP: What wasn't true?

JM: Well, the crowd wasn't chanting. No one threw in their jerseys. He did get in the game. He got carried off [at the end of] the game. [...] Back then they tried to play someone at the end of [the season] that all the seniors could get in the last home game.

The schedule was kind of set that way. So he got in. He did get a sack. And then the guys carried him off, just playing around. I won't say it was a joke, but it was playing around. He worked his butt off to get where he was and to do the things he did. But not any harder than anyone else.

And so reality continues its long unbeaten streak against trumped-up sentiment – not that Rudy Ruettiger minds, now that he's parlayed his 15 minutes into a steady career as motivational speaker and "corporate trainer." I suppose anyone who's able to inspire and sell a bogus feel-good movie about himself being a run-of-the-mill scrub is destined for success.

Frazod · 09-09-2010, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The movie sucked and Joe Montana is a ****ing dick.

Always has been, always will be. It pained me greatly when that **** was traded to the Chiefs in '93.

I have a hard time rooting for people I ****ing dislike, with a passion.

And Montana is one of those guys.

So, you love Peyton Manning, but hate Joe Montana?

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-09-2010, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

So, you love Peyton Manning, but hate Joe Montana?

I don't "love" Manning.

But yes, I do hate Joe Montana.

I've hated him since before he won his first Super Bowl with the 49ers.

If there was ONE thing I hated about football in the 80's, it was Montana.

Not the USFL (LOVED THE USFL). Not Marino. Not Kelly. Not Esiason. Not even Elway.

But Montana?

**** that guy, forever.

May he be raped repeatedly by Lexington Steele's gay brothers.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-09-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't "love" Manning.

But yes, I do hate Joe Montana.

I've hated him since before he won his first Super Bowl with the 49ers.

If there was ONE thing I hated about football in the 80's, it was Montana.

Not the USFL (LOVED THE USFL). Not Marino. Not Kelly. Not Esiason. Not even Elway.

But Montana?

**** that guy, forever.

May he be raped repeatedly by Lexington Steele's gay brothers.

I'm really, really confused here.

Hammock Parties · 09-09-2010, 10:33 PM

Come on Dane, specifics.

**Rain Man** · 09-09-2010, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

Wow... You mean to tell me Hollywood will embellish stories like this for cinematic drama and ticket sales?
I am so jaded now.
Posted via Mobile Device

At least I can still believe in Michael Moore.

**wazu** · 09-09-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR

I'm really, really confused here.

I am too. I fail to see how anything (until this latest story, of course) could make somebody hate Montana other than being a fan of a rival team.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-09-2010, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Come on Dane, specifics.

I can't go into specifics tonight. Too much shit happening, so I'll leave you with this:

In the Information Age, where is Joe Montana?

Steve Young is at ESPN. Marino and Esiason are at CBS. Simms is at CBS AND Showtime.

Where is Joe Montana?

He didn't play in an era where QB's earned $19 million per year. He didn't play in an era where QB's earned $10 million per year. I don't even think he played in an era where QB's, especially journeymen, earned $2 million a year.

He retired more than 16 years ago. He has no endorsements, no commercial presence.

Why?

He's a dick. Plain and simple. EVERYONE knows it.

Once again, he proved it on the Dan Patrick Show.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-09-2010, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod

So, you love Peyton Manning, but hate Joe Montana?

In short, I hate Joe Montana more than you could possibly hate "Signs", if "Signs" was a trilogy, only to be followed by two more trilogies.

Hammock Parties · 09-09-2010, 10:56 PM

Dane used to date Jennifer Montana...and Joe was always hanging around...and he hated him for it. Dane told Jennifer he would love her forever. And then Montana won a Super Bowl and Jennifer was gone like the wind.

Dane never forgave Joe.

When Joe came to Kansas City in the early 90s, Dane seethed with fury. He knew Joe liked to cheat on Jennifer with younger women, that Jennifer was getting older, and soon Joe would be coming after Dane's hot wife. After all, Dane had the hottest wife in all of the midwest. Who else would Joe go after?

It seemed inevitable.

Now, Dane made a lot of money, so Joe would have to be more than just Joe to steal Dane's wife. He would...you guessed it...have to win another Super Bowl, with the Chiefs. Dane's wife was a huge Chiefs fan. If she could dump Dane for the guy who brought Kansas City a Super Bowl, she would.

If Joe Montana took the Chiefs to the Super Bowl, and won, Dane would be single again.

Dane couldn't allow this to happen. He watched his wife cheer like mad when Joe beat the Steelers in the wild card round. He saw the lust in her eyes when Joe came from behind to beat the Oilers. The Chiefs went to Buffalo, and Dane knew he had to do something.

Something evil.

The night before the game, Dane snuck into the Chiefs' locker room, took ALL of the padding out of Joe's helmet, and replaced it with tissue paper. Then, using his secret Hollywood expense account, he paid off every member of the Chiefs offensive line.

Montana was as good as dead.

When Phil Hansen and Bruce Smith knocked Montana violently to the turf in Buffalo, his head smashing against the frozen astroturf, Dane's spirits lifted. Then he saw Joe brace his helmet with his hands and wince in pain, and he knew he had won. Dane smiled an evil smile. Nice try, Joe. Nice try.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-09-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I can't go into specifics tonight. Too much shit happening, so I'll leave you with this:

In the Information Age, where is Joe Montana?

Steve Young is at ESPN. Marino and Esiason are at CBS. Simms is at CBS AND Showtime.

Where is Joe Montana?

He didn't play in an era where QB's earned $19 million per year. He didn't play in an era where QB's earned $10 million per year. I don't even think he played in an era where QB's, especially journeymen, earned $2 million a year.

He retired more than 16 years ago. He has no endorsements, no commercial presence.

Why?

He's a dick. Plain and simple. EVERYONE knows it.

Once again, he proved it on the Dan Patrick Show.

Mmm...I just figured he was a recluse or had better things to do.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-09-2010, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR

Mmm...I just figured he was a recluse or had better things to do.

Nope

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-09-2010, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Dane used to date Jennifer Montana

Funny, but I had already moved to Cali when Joe was traded

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-09-2010, 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Dane used to date Jennifer Montana...and Joe was always hanging around...and he hated him for it. Dane told Jennifer he would love her forever. And then Montana won a Super Bowl and Jennifer was gone like the wind.

Dane never forgave Joe.

When Joe came to Kansas City in the early 90s, Dane seethed with fury. He knew Joe liked to cheat on Jennifer with younger women, that Jennifer was getting older, and soon Joe would be coming after Dane's hot wife. After all, Dane had the hottest wife in all of the midwest. Who else would Joe go after?

It seemed inevitable.

Now, Dane made a lot of money, so Joe would have to be more than just Joe to steal Dane's wife. He would...you guessed it...have to win another Super Bowl, with the Chiefs. Dane's wife was a huge Chiefs fan. If she could dump Dane for the guy who brought Kansas City a Super Bowl, she would.

If Joe Montana took the Chiefs to the Super Bowl, and won, Dane would be single again.

Dane couldn't allow this to happen. He watched his wife cheer like mad when Joe beat the Steelers in the wild card round. He saw the lust in her eyes when Joe came from behind to beat the Oilers. The Chiefs went to Buffalo, and Dane knew he had to do something.

Something evil.

The night before the game, Dane snuck into the Chiefs' locker room, took ALL of the padding out of Joe's helmet, and replaced it with tissue paper. Then, using his secret Hollywood expense account, he paid off every member of the Chiefs offensive line.

Montana was as good as dead.

When Phil Hansen and Bruce Smith knocked Montana violently to the turf in Buffalo, his head smashing against the frozen astroturf, Dane's spirits lifted. Then he saw Joe brace his helmet with his hands and wince in pain, and he knew he had won. Dane smiled an evil smile. Nice try, Joe. Nice try.

Rep.

Param · 09-09-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

He retired more than 16 years ago. He has no endorsements, no commercial presence.

I'd have to disagree with you. I've seen him doing endorsements over the years since he's been retired. Heck, he endorses sketchers shape-ups and has billboards in sketchers stores today.

Hammock Parties · 09-09-2010, 11:09 PM

Only a dickbag would endorse a fraudulent product like shape-ups.

Anyway, there may be something to what Dane is saying. I always got this "I'm too good for this shit" vibe from Montana. Seems like he rarely shows up at HOF ceremonies.

If Steve Bono went on the radio and said "the best restaurant in Kansas City is worse than the worst restaurant in San Francisco," Joe probably walked out on a $300 tab at Arthur Bryant's.

OH YEAH! And I heard a story about Montana at training camp...went up to some girls, smiled, drank their entire pitcher of beer and walked off. Forget who told me about it, but it was someone from here.

09-09-2010, 07:46 PM
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $710478	Joe Montana shits on Rudy, Dane shits on Joe Montana. I love this. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...n=ncaaf-268408 Biopic fans will be shocked – shocked! – to learn that Hollywood takes liberties with the real-life narratives and characters that often come to stand in for history in the popular imagination. In the case of the enduring 1993 hit "Rudy," the film was so unrecognizably warped beyond the existence of an undersized Notre Dame player who registered an improbable sack against Georgia Tech in 1975 that former Irish coach Dan Devine called certain scenes – notably the climactic moment when Rudy's teammates confront Devine's villainous character by handing in their jerseys to get Rudy on the dress list, and later his reluctance to actually put Rudy in the game – "unforgivable" and "a lie." Hall of Famer Joe Montana, then a lowly freshman lingering somewhere on the depth chart, doesn't remember it quite as harshly. But as he told radio host Dan Patrick on Wednesday, he certainly doesn't remember any uplifting strings swelling in the rafters, either: DP: Were you there when Rudy was there? JM: Yeah. It's a movie, remember. Not all of that is true. DP: What wasn't true? JM: Well, the crowd wasn't chanting. No one threw in their jerseys. He did get in the game. He got carried off [at the end of] the game. [...] Back then they tried to play someone at the end of [the season] that all the seniors could get in the last home game. The schedule was kind of set that way. So he got in. He did get a sack. And then the guys carried him off, just playing around. I won't say it was a joke, but it was playing around. He worked his butt off to get where he was and to do the things he did. But not any harder than anyone else. And so reality continues its long unbeaten streak against trumped-up sentiment – not that Rudy Ruettiger minds, now that he's parlayed his 15 minutes into a steady career as motivational speaker and "corporate trainer." I suppose anyone who's able to inspire and sell a bogus feel-good movie about himself being a run-of-the-mill scrub is destined for success. Last edited by Hammock Parties; 09-09-2010 at 11:45 PM..
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Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $710478	Dane used to date Jennifer Montana...and Joe was always hanging around...and he hated him for it. Dane told Jennifer he would love her forever. And then Montana won a Super Bowl and Jennifer was gone like the wind. Dane never forgave Joe. When Joe came to Kansas City in the early 90s, Dane seethed with fury. He knew Joe liked to cheat on Jennifer with younger women, that Jennifer was getting older, and soon Joe would be coming after Dane's hot wife. After all, Dane had the hottest wife in all of the midwest. Who else would Joe go after? It seemed inevitable. Now, Dane made a lot of money, so Joe would have to be more than just Joe to steal Dane's wife. He would...you guessed it...have to win another Super Bowl, with the Chiefs. Dane's wife was a huge Chiefs fan. If she could dump Dane for the guy who brought Kansas City a Super Bowl, she would. If Joe Montana took the Chiefs to the Super Bowl, and won, Dane would be single again. Dane couldn't allow this to happen. He watched his wife cheer like mad when Joe beat the Steelers in the wild card round. He saw the lust in her eyes when Joe came from behind to beat the Oilers. The Chiefs went to Buffalo, and Dane knew he had to do something. Something evil. The night before the game, Dane snuck into the Chiefs' locker room, took ALL of the padding out of Joe's helmet, and replaced it with tissue paper. Then, using his secret Hollywood expense account, he paid off every member of the Chiefs offensive line. Montana was as good as dead. When Phil Hansen and Bruce Smith knocked Montana violently to the turf in Buffalo, his head smashing against the frozen astroturf, Dane's spirits lifted. Then he saw Joe brace his helmet with his hands and wince in pain, and he knew he had won. Dane smiled an evil smile. Nice try, Joe. Nice try. __________________ Chiefs game films
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09-09-2010, 11:09 PM	#30
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $710478	Only a dickbag would endorse a fraudulent product like shape-ups. Anyway, there may be something to what Dane is saying. I always got this "I'm too good for this shit" vibe from Montana. Seems like he rarely shows up at HOF ceremonies. If Steve Bono went on the radio and said "the best restaurant in Kansas City is worse than the worst restaurant in San Francisco," Joe probably walked out on a $300 tab at Arthur Bryant's. OH YEAH! And I heard a story about Montana at training camp...went up to some girls, smiled, drank their entire pitcher of beer and walked off. Forget who told me about it, but it was someone from here. __________________ Chiefs game films
Posts: 297,626