Football Gottleib ripped by Jim Mora.... - Page 2

MikeMaslowski · 09-30-2010, 09:57 AM

HAHAHAHAHA....

Did anyone hear the Mora interview with Gottleib(filling in for Cowherd on ESPN radio)? I've never really liked Got as a radio host and Mora was a complete dick to him, he was verbally shaken and he took the "high road", but it was still funny.

Somebody find the clip?? Sure it will hit later.

Have a beer on me.

Maz

Demonpenz · 09-30-2010, 11:50 AM

When doug talks about College basketball. I listen.

siberian khatru · 09-30-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Wow man...

Dude Mora was a dick for NO ****ING REASON whatsoever...

Gottlieb did NOTHING wrong...asked NO WRONG questions...

Mora was a shitty ass coach and apparently a shitty ass person...Gottlieb really did take the high road at the end...

Agreed.

I don't know if Mora in his mind thought Gottlieb was blaming him for Vick not reaching his potential in Atlanta (he wasn't), or if he just acts like a raging penis on principle.

Radar Chief · 09-30-2010, 12:27 PM

Playoffs?! Don’t talk about….Playoffs?! Are you kidding me?

Hootie · 09-30-2010, 12:30 PM

wrong Mora

Radar Chief · 09-30-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

wrong Mora

I know. Still part of my favorite Coors Light commercial.

Hug it Out Dan · 09-30-2010, 12:42 PM

He did ask a VERY stupid question (or 2).

How should Eagles fans treat McNabb when he comes back?
1. Who gives a shit - Everyone in Amerca, sick and tired of hearing about McNabb coming back and playing at Philly.
2. Why would Jim Mora care, he didn't coach McNabb nor was he ever a coach or a part of the Eagles organization
3. Why would Jim Mora (Jr) speak on the behalf of the fans of Philly. He said exactly what he should have said. It was a dumb question. If Philly feels like cheering him then they will, if they feel like booing him then they will (which they boo everyone up there - everyone knows this, Eagles fans are reeruned).

It would be like asking Denny Green what he thinks KC fans should do to Bernard Pollard when they play Houston (lets say the game was played in KC)? Why the **** would he care?

Do you think if he was as focused in ATL as he is now do you think you would still have a job?
First of all, this is kinda a dick question. NFL coaches spend endless nights, lose spending time w/ family and dedicate almost all the time and emotions into this game, many coaches develop personal relationships w/ a lot of players along the way. When Mora coached Vick, he was young, immature and stupid. It's a sad truth but the reality is QB play is the focal point of the organization and a lot of times can reflect whether or not that HC should still have a job. Most of the longest tenured coaches in the NFL (minus Fisher and a couple others, but he had McNair for a #of years) have steady QB play, and how the QB performs can determine what direction the GM thinks the team needs to go in. Vick was a probowler under Mora IIRC, and led that team to the NFC champ game so it's not like Vick was terrible. There were a # of reasons I'm sure as to why Mora was fired. Doug G is basing all of this off of Vick stating that he was lazy, and that's indirectly slamming the HC for allowing that to happen, you don't ask those types of questions DIRECTLY at the HC during a nationally broadcasted interview.

He's (Vick) older now and a lot more mature now, and not to mention is glad to even be back into the NFL and knows he can't **** up again. Hopefully he was scared straight while in prison and will come out of this a better person. Sometimes people need a kick in the ass or a life changing moment to change. I still think he's a POS for what he did regardless but that's another story.

Bottom line, Doug G got what he deserved. I'm tired of all of ESPN's bullshit anyways. Some of these reeruns on TV need to be treated that way every once in a while to kinda put them in their place. Most of them haven't played the respected sport in which they are covering and have no god damn idea what goes on inside behind closed doors.

DJ's left nut · 09-30-2010, 01:13 PM

I didn't think the first line of questioning was bad, but I also didn't think Mora's answer was out of line.

I think the McNabb question was really really stupid. Mora could've handled it better, but he's right, the question was assinine. How should a fanbase you have no insight to feel about a quarterback you never coached on a team you never coached for who now plays for a different team you never coached for?

The guy's not a psychologist, he's a football coach. If it's Andy Reid, it's an okay question as he has a particular insight into that fanbase. But when you're asking Jim Mora Jr. that, well it's just stupid and an attempt to wedge ESPN's 'story of the week' into any ol' interview that comes along. Mora was right to call Gottleib out for that.

Mora comes off as a prick, but Gottleib comes off as an amateur, IMO. And for that snarky little **** to get a bit of his own medicine...well I'm okay with that, too.

MikeMaslowski · 09-30-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Doug didn't seem too shaken like you described. I listen to him every day on the way home and he sounded like he always does.

You had to keep listening after that part. I am a radio announcer and tend to pick apart peoples deliveries. He was verbally out of sorts for the next couple of minutes, IMO.

Still, Mora was a dick, and I would be a bit shaken as well.

Hootie · 09-30-2010, 01:38 PM

I don't know...

He was asking about a hot topic this week...to a guy who has coached in the NFL...

why is him asking what everyone else is asking anyone who cares out of line?

Tony Reali asked the same question on ATH yesterday and everyone offered their opinions...Gottlieb was just asking a simple question...

if he asked me...

I would have said "hell yeah they should cheer Donovan McNabb...he gave them 11 great years and has been a top 5 QB in the NFL over that period of time!"

DJ's left nut · 09-30-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

I don't know...

He was asking about a hot topic this week...to a guy who has coached in the NFL...

why is him asking what everyone else is asking anyone who cares out of line?

Tony Reali asked the same question on ATH yesterday and everyone offered their opinions...Gottlieb was just asking a simple question...

if he asked me...

I would have said "hell yeah they should cheer Donovan McNabb...he gave them 11 great years and has been a top 5 QB in the NFL over that period of time!"

Again - he was shoehorning ESPN's narrative into an interview with a party that doesn't give a shit.

It's a hot topic because ESPN made it one. If KC played this week, I'd be a hell of a lot more interested in how they match up to that game. Folks in Atlanta are far more interested in their matchup than they are the Eagles and McNabb.

It's a national issue because ESPN is pimping it as one, but in reality, most people outside of Philly don't really care that much. It's ESPN trying to create another story.

It's standard ESPN fare and I'm glad Mora called them on it.

MikeMaslowski · 09-30-2010, 01:45 PM

Does anyone know if they get paid for those phone interviews?

Hootie · 09-30-2010, 01:47 PM

you're telling me Vick/McNabb (in his return to Philly) shouldn't be a national topic?

Really?

Really?

I, for one, am very excited for that game...

Vick's resurgence and McNabb's return?

Yeah...ESPN created that one! Whatever man...

suds79 · 09-30-2010, 01:55 PM

Obviously Mora was heated but I think the comment about "Had he bought in (in regards to vick) when you were there... yada, yada, yada." I think Gottleib got what he was aiming for.

He had to know some fire was coming his way.

Zaiko · 09-30-2010, 02:27 PM

Gottlieb knew his questions were dickish. Mora just responded how he felt. I got the sense that Gottlieb was putting the blame on Mora for Vick "not performing" in Atlanta when the reality is he did well.

Gottlieb probably pissed him off with this line, and I have to think I'd be a little pissed too in Mora's situation. Talking about how if he had got Vick to buy into his spiel better, "you might still be the coach of the Falcons".

Gottlieb's no saint himself. The guy's an ass.

Mile High Mania · 09-30-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zaiko

Gottlieb knew his questions were dickish. Mora just responded how he felt. I got the sense that Gottlieb was putting the blame on Mora for Vick "not performing" in Atlanta when the reality is he did well.

Gottlieb probably pissed him off with this line, and I have to think I'd be a little pissed too in Mora's situation. Talking about how if he had got Vick to buy into his spiel better, "you might still be the coach of the Falcons".

Gottlieb's no saint himself. The guy's an ass.

He's just looking for his Jim Rome moment to make him famous...

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09-30-2010, 12:30 PM	#19
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09-30-2010, 12:42 PM	#21
Hug it Out Dan Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	He did ask a VERY stupid question (or 2). *How should Eagles fans treat McNabb when he comes back?* 1. Who gives a shit - Everyone in Amerca, sick and tired of hearing about McNabb coming back and playing at Philly. 2. Why would Jim Mora care, he didn't coach McNabb nor was he ever a coach or a part of the Eagles organization 3. Why would Jim Mora (Jr) speak on the behalf of the fans of Philly. He said exactly what he should have said. It was a dumb question. If Philly feels like cheering him then they will, if they feel like booing him then they will (which they boo everyone up there - everyone knows this, Eagles fans are reeruned). It would be like asking Denny Green what he thinks KC fans should do to Bernard Pollard when they play Houston (lets say the game was played in KC)? Why the ** would he care? Do you think if he was as focused in ATL as he is now do you think you would still have a job? First of all, this is kinda a dick question. NFL coaches spend endless nights, lose spending time w/ family and dedicate almost all the time and emotions into this game, many coaches develop personal relationships w/ a lot of players along the way. When Mora coached Vick, he was young, immature and stupid. It's a sad truth but the reality is QB play is the focal point of the organization and a lot of times can reflect whether or not that HC should still have a job. Most of the longest tenured coaches in the NFL (minus Fisher and a couple others, but he had McNair for a #of years) have steady QB play, and how the QB performs can determine what direction the GM thinks the team needs to go in. Vick was a probowler under Mora IIRC, and led that team to the NFC champ game so it's not like Vick was terrible. There were a # of reasons I'm sure as to why Mora was fired. Doug G is basing all of this off of Vick stating that he was lazy, and that's indirectly slamming the HC for allowing that to happen, you don't ask those types of questions DIRECTLY at the HC during a nationally broadcasted interview. He's (Vick) older now and a lot more mature now, and not to mention is glad to even be back into the NFL and knows he can't ** up again. Hopefully he was scared straight while in prison and will come out of this a better person. Sometimes people need a kick in the ass or a life changing moment to change. I still think he's a POS for what he did regardless but that's another story. Bottom line, Doug G got what he deserved. I'm tired of all of ESPN's bullshit anyways. Some of these reeruns on TV need to be treated that way every once in a while to kinda put them in their place. Most of them haven't played the respected sport in which they are covering and have no god damn idea what goes on inside behind closed doors. Last edited by Hug it Out Dan; 09-30-2010 at 12:52 PM..
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09-30-2010, 01:13 PM	#22
DJ's left nut Sauntering Vaguely Downwards Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Columbia, Mo Casino cash: $1559099	I didn't think the first line of questioning was bad, but I also didn't think Mora's answer was out of line. I think the McNabb question was really really stupid. Mora could've handled it better, but he's right, the question was assinine. How should a fanbase you have no insight to feel about a quarterback you never coached on a team you never coached for who now plays for a different team you never coached for? The guy's not a psychologist, he's a football coach. If it's Andy Reid, it's an okay question as he has a particular insight into that fanbase. But when you're asking Jim Mora Jr. that, well it's just stupid and an attempt to wedge ESPN's 'story of the week' into any ol' interview that comes along. Mora was right to call Gottleib out for that. Mora comes off as a prick, but Gottleib comes off as an amateur, IMO. And for that snarky little **** to get a bit of his own medicine...well I'm okay with that, too. __________________ "If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..." "When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
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09-30-2010, 01:38 PM	#24
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I don't know... He was asking about a hot topic this week...to a guy who has coached in the NFL... why is him asking what everyone else is asking anyone who cares out of line? Tony Reali asked the same question on ATH yesterday and everyone offered their opinions...Gottlieb was just asking a simple question... if he asked me... I would have said "hell yeah they should cheer Donovan McNabb...he gave them 11 great years and has been a top 5 QB in the NFL over that period of time!"
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09-30-2010, 01:45 PM	#26
MikeMaslowski There's always next year. Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10009290	Does anyone know if they get paid for those phone interviews?
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09-30-2010, 01:47 PM	#27
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	you're telling me Vick/McNabb (in his return to Philly) shouldn't be a national topic? Really? Really? I, for one, am very excited for that game... Vick's resurgence and McNabb's return? Yeah...ESPN created that one! Whatever man...
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09-30-2010, 01:55 PM	#28
suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	Obviously Mora was heated but I think the comment about "Had he bought in (in regards to vick) when you were there... yada, yada, yada." I think Gottleib got what he was aiming for. He had to know some fire was coming his way.
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09-30-2010, 02:27 PM	#29
Zaiko Starter Join Date: Aug 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	Gottlieb knew his questions were dickish. Mora just responded how he felt. I got the sense that Gottlieb was putting the blame on Mora for Vick "not performing" in Atlanta when the reality is he did well. Gottlieb probably pissed him off with this line, and I have to think I'd be a little pissed too in Mora's situation. Talking about how if he had got Vick to buy into his spiel better, "you might still be the coach of the Falcons". Gottlieb's no saint himself. The guy's an ass.
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