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T-post Tom · 10:19 PM

How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts
by Patrick Allen
Sep 30th

The Kansas City Chiefs won’t take on the Indianapolis Colts until October 10th but you can bet Todd Haley and his coaching staff are using their “week off” to work.

Here at Arrowhead Addict, we’re doing the same.

The Chiefs are still not getting respect from the national media. Don’t confuse KC’s recent mentions in the national press as respect. They are just mentions. The “experts” have to mention that the Chiefs are 3-0 and they have to mention that it is remarkable but that doesn’t mean they respect them and it certainly doesn’t mean they think the Chiefs stand a snowballs chance in hell of knocking off the Colts on the road.

They might be right. Peyton Manning is one of the best QB’s ever and as some of our astute readers pointed out earlier today, the Colts are nearly unbeatable at home. Since 2005 the Colts are 35 and 6 at home.

Despite their record the Chiefs are still developing. They have a very, very young secondary. The type of secondary Peyton Manning puts in an omelet and eats for breakfast.

Yet given all that, I think the Chiefs are perfectly constructed to beat the Indianapolis Colts.

Ok, maybe not perfectly constructed. It would help if the Chiefs had Joe Montana at QB instead of Matt Cassel but you have to play with the guys you’ve got.

While game planning for the Colts, the Chiefs need to look no farther than the Houston Texans.

Houston is the only team to beat the Colts this year and they exposed in the first game weaknesses that Indi’s last two opponents have failed to take advantage of. Whether the Texans stumbled upon their victory by planning or luck, it worked and the Chiefs would be fools not to look pretty hard at the Texans Week 1 box score.

I’m no fool so I’ve done just that. The way the Texans beat the Colts was very simple.

They ran it down their freaking throats.

For years the Texans have been getting into shootouts with Peyton Manning and for years Manning has beat them. Not this year.

The Texans beat the mighty Indianapolis Colts with a measly 98 yards passing.

Matt Shaub, normally a very good QB capable of putting up huge numbers, attempted only 17 passes to Manning’s 57.

No the Texans ran on the Colts. The pounded the ball with Arian Foster, who racked up 231 yards. In the end the Texans gashed Indi’s pitiful run defense for 257 yards and 3 rushing touchdowns.

On the defensive side of the ball, the Texans weren’t delusional enough to believe they could shut down Manning. Nobody can shut down Manning.

Peyton completed a ridiculous 40 of 57 passes for 433 yards and 3 touchdowns.

More than a few times the Texans let Manning march down into their territory before tightening up their D. They avoided letting Manning get the big play, giving him the underneath stuff. They let him get his numbers.

They got the victory.

The Chiefs have a team constructed to implement a similar game plan. They have a quick and athletic secondary that knows how to tackle. They should be able to keep the Colts receivers in front of them. When the Colts get into Chiefs territory, Flowers, Carr, Berry and Lewis should be able to tighten up enough to hold the Colts to some FG’s.

When the Chiefs have the ball they have to take advantage of Indi’s 29th ranked run defense. The Colts are giving up an average of 141.3 yards per game while the Chiefs are averaging 160.7 yards rushing. This won’t be a repeat of the 2007 Wild Card Playoffs. Bob Sanders isn’t coming back. The Colts aren’t going to suddenly learn how to stop the run. If the Chiefs can gash the Colts on the ground they should be able to score without Matt Cassel needing to throw for 400 yards.

The Chiefs will have to be opportunistic. They won’t be able to turn the ball over and they had better continue to avoid penalties.

If they can do these things I think the Chiefs have a legitimate shot at shocking the world.

A couple of special teams touchdowns wouldn’t hurt either.

http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/09/3...eat-the-colts/

It'd be a lot easier if we could have Bernie "Flashdance" Pollard for just one play. [Which would make Curtis Painter our starting QB next year.

]

Zaiko · 09-30-2010, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Foster has about 400 yards in three games. Not amazing, not awful. He's been fairly contained the past two weeks and I've seen no reason to suggest the Chiefs can't do the same.

Oh, I can see the Chiefs falling behind by 10 or less and still winning but any more than that may be difficult due to Cassel's limited ability.

Yardage doesn't work too much though since HOU is so stacked on O. Schaub's 497 yds against the Redskins made his yardage less; he wasn't contained.

And yeah, I could see 10 maybe if it's earlyish. INDY has threats outside though as well, Clark won't be as much of a problem if we can apply constant pressure to Peyton.

GoHuge · 09-30-2010, 10:40 PM

This smacks of AT. A master of the obvious article. I'm fairly confident the Chiefs will take a peek at what the only team to beat the Colts this year did to beat them. Just a guess, but I'm glad this guy pointed it out. Somebody forward this to Haley ASAP!!

T-post Tom · 09-30-2010, 10:45 PM

Lilja should be a good resource for Romeo and the defense.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-30-2010, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaiko

Yardage doesn't work too much though since HOU is so stacked on O. Schaub's 497 yds against the Redskins made his yardage less; he wasn't contained.

And yeah, I could see 10 maybe if it's earlyish. INDY has threats outside though as well, Clark won't be as much of a problem if we can apply constant pressure to Peyton.

Foster was contained by two 3-4 defenses in Washington and Dallas. Dallas has a better secondary and was able to contain Schaub and the receivers.

I'm not stating that will be the case when the Chiefs visit the Texans but I do think there's a much better chance of a win than most people expect. The matchups, outside of the tight end (again) are fairly favorable on defense for the Chiefs.

KCrockaholic · 09-30-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007

The only way the Chiefs will beat the Colts is if a tornado tears off the roof of the RCA Dome forcing Peyton Manning to play **gasp** in the OUTDOORS.

It's Lucas Oil Stadium now. Truly a unique stadium actually.

Zaiko · 09-30-2010, 10:50 PM

Going by memory here.. 17-106 isn't a ton for contained.

He was something like 16-70 against the Redskins, but I still think that's skewed with Schaub throwing for 497.

Owen Daniels has been hurt and recovering this season. He's played some but to me hasn't looked like himself yet. Even if he's fully healthy, he's not the threat DClark is. By then, and after dealing with Clark.. I'd hope we have a good idea on how to contain him.

**BossChief** · 09-30-2010, 10:52 PM

1) do to Dallas Clark what we did to Vernon Davis...practiciong against Tony 2 surely is helping in this area.
2) Run the ball consistently throughout the game and give Charles the start and the better part of a 65/35 split of the carries
3) Get to PM consistently and hit him when we get there, we cant let him get comfortable. We cant blitz much to do this, we have to do it with a 4 man rush most of the time.
4) Preparation is KEY, Romeo should get these guys ready to take away the things Peyton like to do the most and force him to do things he doesnt do every game. If he tries to replicate recent history, Flowers, Berry, Carr and the rest of the secondary need to play opportunistic football and DONT DROP PICKS.
5) Keep them to field goals and not touchdowns. If we can do this, we can win.
6) Dont let PM get on fire late in the game.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-30-2010, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Lilja should be a good resource for Romeo and the defense.

I think that Romeo will be a good resource for Romeo and the defense

T-post Tom · 09-30-2010, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I think that Romeo will be a good resource for Romeo and the defense

Oh that's right, Lilja won't be able to provide any insight into Manning or the Colts' offense because his memory is totally shot. Just like his knees.

SPATCH · 09-30-2010, 10:57 PM

Arian Foster is an exemplary member of the first place St. Cloud Boating fantasy football team.

You will speak ill of him no longer.

**Bearcat** · 09-30-2010, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaiko

We can't afford to fall behind though.. at all.

Yep, this doesn't work...

Code:

BY QUARTER CMP  ATT     YDS     CMP%     YPA     LNG     TD     INT  SACK     RAT     ATT     YDS     AVG     LNG     TD
1st Qtr    9     21      77     42.9     3.67     16     0     0     2.0     53.1     2     10     5.0     6     0
2nd Qtr    16    29     177     55.2     6.10     31     2     3     0.0     56.9     2     8     4.0     5     0
3rd Qtr    9     12     168     75.0     14.00    45     2     0     0.0    156.3     1     1     1.0     1     0
4th Qtr    8     15      72     53.3     4.80     19     0     0     0.0     66.5     3     -3     -1.0     -1     0

...but, hopefully the bye can make a difference. Having a few big play guys helps in case they do get down early, and there was just enough pressure up the middle last week to get my hopes up on rattling Manning a little. I'm really interested to see the defensive plan, as well as offense, especially after seeing Herm shit his pants against the Colts twice in recent years.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-30-2010, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zaiko

Going by memory here.. 17-106 isn't a ton for contained.

He was something like 16-70 against the Redskins, but I still think that's skewed with Schaub throwing for 497.

Owen Daniels has been hurt and recovering this season. He's played some but to me hasn't looked like himself yet. Even if he's fully healthy, he's not the threat DClark is. By then, and after dealing with Clark.. I'd hope we have a good idea on how to contain him.

It all depends on DJ and Berry's continued improvement.

DJ hasn't shown that he can cover a TE consistently over the years and Berry is a very young guy just learning about the NFL. If both can make a leap during the next two weeks of preparation, it may affect Clark's ability to get open and score at will.

I'm not suggesting he won't score (he tore up the Giants because of their safety issues) but hopefully, things will become clearer for Berry over the course of the bye so that it doesn't happen repeatedly.

Just to be clear, I'm in no way, shape or form down on Berry, but he's essentially a college senior playing in the NFL. It's going to take at least 10 games or more for everything to click and most likely, his entire rookie campaign.

Hug it Out Dan · 09-30-2010, 11:01 PM

The bad thing about our good running game is the Colts KNOW we have a good running game and shitty pass game. It doesn't take someone from NASA to figure out what we're gonna try and do. They're going to put 8 in the box and make Cassel beat us w/ his arm while Mathis and Freeney are breathing down his neck. I just hope Albert and BRich are up for that challenge, those 2 DE's are VERY fast off the line, on that field turf.

T-post Tom · 09-30-2010, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_spatula

Arian Foster is an exemplary member of the first place St. Cloud Boating fantasy football team.

You will speak ill of him no longer.

Nor his Teddy Ruxpin.

KCrockaholic · 09-30-2010, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-post Tom

Oh that's right, Lilja won't be able to provide any insight into Manning or the Colts' offense because his memory is totally shot. Just like his knees.

Protection wise, he should be a helluva advantage for the defensive line. If I was Todd, I would stick Lilja in the film room with the front seven and let him coach them up for an hour or two.

09-30-2010, 10:06 PM
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1767293	How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts How The Chiefs Can Beat The Colts by Patrick Allen Sep 30th The Kansas City Chiefs won’t take on the Indianapolis Colts until October 10th but you can bet Todd Haley and his coaching staff are using their “week off” to work. Here at Arrowhead Addict, we’re doing the same. The Chiefs are still not getting respect from the national media. Don’t confuse KC’s recent mentions in the national press as respect. They are just mentions. The “experts” have to mention that the Chiefs are 3-0 and they have to mention that it is remarkable but that doesn’t mean they respect them and it certainly doesn’t mean they think the Chiefs stand a snowballs chance in hell of knocking off the Colts on the road. They might be right. Peyton Manning is one of the best QB’s ever and as some of our astute readers pointed out earlier today, the Colts are nearly unbeatable at home. Since 2005 the Colts are 35 and 6 at home. Despite their record the Chiefs are still developing. They have a very, very young secondary. The type of secondary Peyton Manning puts in an omelet and eats for breakfast. Yet given all that, I think the Chiefs are perfectly constructed to beat the Indianapolis Colts. Ok, maybe not perfectly constructed. It would help if the Chiefs had Joe Montana at QB instead of Matt Cassel but you have to play with the guys you’ve got. While game planning for the Colts, the Chiefs need to look no farther than the Houston Texans. Houston is the only team to beat the Colts this year and they exposed in the first game weaknesses that Indi’s last two opponents have failed to take advantage of. Whether the Texans stumbled upon their victory by planning or luck, it worked and the Chiefs would be fools not to look pretty hard at the Texans Week 1 box score. I’m no fool so I’ve done just that. The way the Texans beat the Colts was very simple. They ran it down their freaking throats. For years the Texans have been getting into shootouts with Peyton Manning and for years Manning has beat them. Not this year. The Texans beat the mighty Indianapolis Colts with a measly 98 yards passing. Matt Shaub, normally a very good QB capable of putting up huge numbers, attempted only 17 passes to Manning’s 57. No the Texans ran on the Colts. The pounded the ball with Arian Foster, who racked up 231 yards. In the end the Texans gashed Indi’s pitiful run defense for 257 yards and 3 rushing touchdowns. On the defensive side of the ball, the Texans weren’t delusional enough to believe they could shut down Manning. Nobody can shut down Manning. Peyton completed a ridiculous 40 of 57 passes for 433 yards and 3 touchdowns. More than a few times the Texans let Manning march down into their territory before tightening up their D. They avoided letting Manning get the big play, giving him the underneath stuff. They let him get his numbers. They got the victory. The Chiefs have a team constructed to implement a similar game plan. They have a quick and athletic secondary that knows how to tackle. They should be able to keep the Colts receivers in front of them. When the Colts get into Chiefs territory, Flowers, Carr, Berry and Lewis should be able to tighten up enough to hold the Colts to some FG’s. When the Chiefs have the ball they have to take advantage of Indi’s 29th ranked run defense. The Colts are giving up an average of 141.3 yards per game while the Chiefs are averaging 160.7 yards rushing. This won’t be a repeat of the 2007 Wild Card Playoffs. Bob Sanders isn’t coming back. The Colts aren’t going to suddenly learn how to stop the run. If the Chiefs can gash the Colts on the ground they should be able to score without Matt Cassel needing to throw for 400 yards. The Chiefs will have to be opportunistic. They won’t be able to turn the ball over and they had better continue to avoid penalties. If they can do these things I think the Chiefs have a legitimate shot at shocking the world. A couple of special teams touchdowns wouldn’t hurt either. http://arrowheadaddict.com/2010/09/3...eat-the-colts/ It'd be a lot easier if we could have Bernie "Flashdance" Pollard for just one play. [Which would make Curtis Painter our starting QB next year. ] Last edited by T-post Tom; 09-30-2010 at 10:19 PM..
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09-30-2010, 10:40 PM	#17
GoHuge The Truth Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10006072	This smacks of AT. A master of the obvious article. I'm fairly confident the Chiefs will take a peek at what the only team to beat the Colts this year did to beat them. Just a guess, but I'm glad this guy pointed it out. Somebody forward this to Haley ASAP!!
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09-30-2010, 10:45 PM	#18
T-post Tom Busy in a Kohl's restroom Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Milk/Honey/Gazland Casino cash: $1767293	Lilja should be a good resource for Romeo and the defense. __________________ You seem nice!
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Zaiko Starter Join Date: Aug 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	Going by memory here.. 17-106 isn't a ton for contained. He was something like 16-70 against the Redskins, but I still think that's skewed with Schaub throwing for 497. Owen Daniels has been hurt and recovering this season. He's played some but to me hasn't looked like himself yet. Even if he's fully healthy, he's not the threat DClark is. By then, and after dealing with Clark.. I'd hope we have a good idea on how to contain him.
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09-30-2010, 10:52 PM	#22
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1715912	1) do to Dallas Clark what we did to Vernon Davis...practiciong against Tony 2 surely is helping in this area. 2) Run the ball consistently throughout the game and give Charles the start and the better part of a 65/35 split of the carries 3) Get to PM consistently and hit him when we get there, we cant let him get comfortable. We cant blitz much to do this, we have to do it with a 4 man rush most of the time. 4) Preparation is KEY, Romeo should get these guys ready to take away the things Peyton like to do the most and force him to do things he doesnt do every game. If he tries to replicate recent history, Flowers, Berry, Carr and the rest of the secondary need to play opportunistic football and DONT DROP PICKS. 5) Keep them to field goals and not touchdowns. If we can do this, we can win. 6) Dont let PM get on fire late in the game. __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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Hug it Out Dan Starter Join Date: Sep 2010 Casino cash: $10004900	The bad thing about our good running game is the Colts KNOW we have a good running game and shitty pass game. It doesn't take someone from NASA to figure out what we're gonna try and do. They're going to put 8 in the box and make Cassel beat us w/ his arm while Mathis and Freeney are breathing down his neck. I just hope Albert and BRich are up for that challenge, those 2 DE's are VERY fast off the line, on that field turf.
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