Chiefs My view on the game/season - Page 2

LiL stumppy · 11-07-2010, 10:06 PM

1.B-Flowers.. Kid is good, he is always going to be good. Ford has unreal speed, and flowers played a lot of man coverage. With his speed, you can't really jump a route, you HAVE to give him a lot of cushion, which is why they completed a few 8-15 yard routes infront of Flowers, because he had to give Ford cushion. And the field didn't help on his breaks. The last play where Ford cought that pass and Flowers didn't pick it, well thats no ones fault. Ford made a heck of a play..

Flowers dropped a pick,McGraw had 1 or 2. DJ had 2 last week.. It's never an "issue" because it's not there job, but it is turning into an issue, because we have left a lot of turnovers on the field.

D played well, gave up 1 long pass in OT that really killed us, Flowers just doesn't have the speed to man up on someone that fast.

Casshole is awful. Plain and simple, if you look at his numbers and use that as an arghument that he's good, you don't understand the game. I have never seen so many over/under throws in my life. He threw a pick at the end of the first half, off his back foot, Bowe was wide open behind Moiokiwhatever. Over threw TM on the 3rd and 1.. Over threw many many people, it's just horrible to watch, I hate watching him. I hate that we have put the ball in his hands so many times on 3rd and 1. He doesn't turn the ball over because he either completes 3 yard routes, or over throws every body that's deep, including the safteys.

Waters got owned by Seymore a lot, but Seymore is a freak.

Bowe is bowe. We need a true number 1, obviously. Bowe would be a great number 2 reciever, but he just isn't good enough to count on as a number 1.

This season is not over, we all knew this was going to be a tough game, it always is at Oakland. So I don't say how you can see the season is over, that's so stupid. Granted Casshole won't take us very far, if to the play offs at all, but we have a legit D, and a very good run game.

I am more upset about how many points we didn't put up at the end of the second half. Instead of 10, we should have been going in with ATLEAST 16.

I know, if you don't agree with me, I am a dipshit. And thats fine

P.S. The reason we are not converting many 3rd and 1's is because teams know Casshole can't throw the ball, so they stack about 9 in the box.

RaiderGreg · 11-07-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

I also saw us drop 3 INT, get a horrible call on the drive befor OT (holding on Washington)

If I recall we didn't score a TD on that miller fumble recovery.. And it was close, there was no exclusive evidence provided that it wasn't a fumble.

Not to mention the 18 holding calls on Hali we didn't recieve. The first quater PI, was a bad call, but don't act like we didnt get ours.

We are a horrible passing team, and we were missing our most explosive player in the passing game, which made us awful. Wait till they come to KC buddy, it will be a totally different outcome, as it usually is when we play at home.

Actually you did score a TD off of the Miller fumble. It was 17-13 when the Raiders forced the 3 and out. After the Miller fumble was the 20+ yard TD pass to Bowe on the blown coverage.

CoMoChief · 11-07-2010, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Eh losing like we did to Indy and Hou is nothing to be ashamed of.. Sucks, but we didn't play bad.

we played terrible the 2nd half of the indy and hou games.

LiL stumppy · 11-08-2010, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

we played terrible the 2nd half of the indy and hou games.

Even though we lost both in the last minutes of both games,and it was close at half?

Bewbies · 11-08-2010, 12:35 AM

The Raiders had a great game plan to make Cassel beat them, which everyone in the world knows he is not capable of doing. BUT, the Chiefs left a lot of points off the board in the first half, should have been over at halftime.

Oh well, we'll beat em at Arrowhead.

Three7s · 11-08-2010, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RNATION

It was actually worse then you think, Chiefs ......

1. were spotted 7 points by the refs on that B.S. pass interference call.

2. Benifitted from bad ref calls against the Raiders

2. were handed the ball on the Nick Miller fumble, That led to another 7 ponts

4. Raiders screwed out of 3 points when Jano missed that field goal

6. Raiders were missing half the team Zach Miller, Aso, Bruce, Rolando, Branch, Chaz, murphy

Can you imagine what the score would have been if they were playing ?

All that and the Raiders still won , wow

I can play the injury game too. McCluster and Lewis out killed us. Doesn't matter though, both teams played terrible and none of them deserved to win. I think Murphy being out was a blessing in disguise, he doesn't blow by Flowers like Ford does.

Lastly, it doesn't matter how many guys are injured or penalties or whatever, your D-line dominated our O-line and that was what won it.

**The Bad Guy** · 11-08-2010, 05:40 AM

Everyone wants to keep crying about that Nick Miller fumble. He was bobbling it when he went to the ground. I don't know why it keeps getting discussed like it was some **** job for the Raiders when it was coming out.

Also, it took a miracle play by Ford to force overtime. That play happens once a season if that.

Raiders deserved to win, but Raider fan sticking his chest out like they are dominant team is hilarious on here.

Raiders still trail the Chiefs in the division with a much tougher road.

suds79 · 11-08-2010, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Bowe is bowe. We need a true number 1, obviously. Bowe would be a great number 2 reciever, but he just isn't good enough to count on as a number 1.

I used to think this but the more I think about it, the more I can't get past this.

What #2 WR would you want who has a problem catching the ball?

He's far too inconsistent for my taste.

Deberg_1990 · 11-08-2010, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by LiL stumppy

Casshole is awful. Plain and simple, if you look at his numbers and use that as an arghument that he's good, you don't understand the game. I have never seen so many over/under throws in my life. He threw a pick at the end of the first half, off his back foot, Bowe was wide open behind Moiokiwhatever. Over threw TM on the 3rd and 1.. Over threw many many people, it's just horrible to watch, I hate watching him. I hate that we have put the ball in his hands so many times on 3rd and 1. He doesn't turn the ball over because he either completes 3 yard routes, or over throws every body that's deep, including the safteys.

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Look, i feel your pain, i really do, but awful is a little much.

He did make the big TD throw to Bowe to put us ahead.

However, I cant disagree much with everything you said. I think mainly it feels like the playbook is limited with him or its handcuffed a little. Theres only so many throws hes capable of making. Its easy to see why he was a 7th rounder.

TheGuardian · 11-08-2010, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RNATION

It was actually worse then you think, Chiefs ......

1. were spotted 7 points by the refs on that B.S. pass interference call.

2. Benifitted from bad ref calls against the Raiders

2. were handed the ball on the Nick Miller fumble, That led to another 7 ponts

4. Raiders screwed out of 3 points when Jano missed that field goal

6. Raiders were missing half the team Zach Miller, Aso, Bruce, Rolando, Branch, Chaz, murphy

Can you imagine what the score would have been if they were playing ?

All that and the Raiders still won , wow

1. Chiefs had holding calls that never happened.

2. Were screwed out of 7 points on a return for a TD because of a BS holding call that happened well away from the play.

3. Had 3 picks dropped.

4. Hali was held the entire ****ing day and was able to get 1 holding call in the midst of the monsoon of flags.

We can play this game too asshole.

Is your numbering system from prison?

tyton75 · 11-08-2010, 08:08 AM

agree with everythign I read:

just want to add that #34 (daniels)? should be cut from the team after that pussified kickoff coverage that allowed the TD. He should have filled the Hole, but instead looked like a little girl and turned his back away from the blocker

siberian khatru · 11-08-2010, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Raiders deserved to win, but Raider fan sticking his chest out like they are dominant team is hilarious on here.

Bunch of Nov. 7/Nov. 8 join dates. These guys didn't talk until AFTER the game, when they had won. Most of these Raiderettes didn't have the stones to talk trash BEFORE the game, let alone join the Planet years ago (like Ugly Duck did) to engage in the rivalry. Hell, Championship was an annoying douche all week, but at least he ran his mouth BEFORE the game.

It's beyond pathetic.

**Buehler445** · 11-08-2010, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RNATION

It was actually worse then you think, Chiefs ......

1. were spotted 7 points by the refs on that B.S. pass interference call.

2. Benifitted from bad ref calls against the Raiders

2. were handed the ball on the Nick Miller fumble, That led to another 7 ponts

4. Raiders screwed out of 3 points when Jano missed that field goal

6. Raiders were missing half the team Zach Miller, Aso, Bruce, Rolando, Branch, Chaz, murphy

Can you imagine what the score would have been if they were playing ?

All that and the Raiders still won , wow

Learn to spell. Posted via Mobile Device

ROYC75 · 11-08-2010, 09:29 AM

So what, win some, lose some. Learn from it, move along. This team & coach is young, making a ton of mistakes and we haven't learned the killer approach to putting a team away when you have them down.

On to Denver, time to regroup.

Champ · 11-08-2010, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Bunch of Nov. 7/Nov. 8 join dates. These guys didn't talk until AFTER the game, when they had won. Most of these Raiderettes didn't have the stones to talk trash BEFORE the game, let alone join the Planet years ago (like Ugly Duck did) to engage in the rivalry. Hell, Championship was an annoying douche all week, but at least he ran his mouth BEFORE the game.

It's beyond pathetic.

Thanks for the credit. Unfortunately, your mods felt the need to ban me right after the game for no apparent reason.

So I made a new account and will posting under this name until your mods put two and two together, and figure out that I'm back. It probably won't be for a couple of days, though. Since it takes you Chief fans longer to understand things.

Chiefless · 11-08-2010, 10:26 AM

The problem with the passing game is a collective one. Coaching/play design, pass-protection, lack of separation by WR and QB play. All of them are duds. That entire phase of the game sucks moose caulk. I get that Cassle's play leaves much to be desired and I get why. But what do you get when you combine predictable play-design using WRs that can't get open in man coverage with a suspect QB given 3 steps to make a decision on 3rd and 8?

11-07-2010, 10:06 PM
LiL stumppy 62-21 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Casino cash: $9913684	My view on the game/season 1.B-Flowers.. Kid is good, he is always going to be good. Ford has unreal speed, and flowers played a lot of man coverage. With his speed, you can't really jump a route, you HAVE to give him a lot of cushion, which is why they completed a few 8-15 yard routes infront of Flowers, because he had to give Ford cushion. And the field didn't help on his breaks. The last play where Ford cought that pass and Flowers didn't pick it, well thats no ones fault. Ford made a heck of a play.. Flowers dropped a pick,McGraw had 1 or 2. DJ had 2 last week.. It's never an "issue" because it's not there job, but it is turning into an issue, because we have left a lot of turnovers on the field. D played well, gave up 1 long pass in OT that really killed us, Flowers just doesn't have the speed to man up on someone that fast. Casshole is awful. Plain and simple, if you look at his numbers and use that as an arghument that he's good, you don't understand the game. I have never seen so many over/under throws in my life. He threw a pick at the end of the first half, off his back foot, Bowe was wide open behind Moiokiwhatever. Over threw TM on the 3rd and 1.. Over threw many many people, it's just horrible to watch, I hate watching him. I hate that we have put the ball in his hands so many times on 3rd and 1. He doesn't turn the ball over because he either completes 3 yard routes, or over throws every body that's deep, including the safteys. Waters got owned by Seymore a lot, but Seymore is a freak. Bowe is bowe. We need a true number 1, obviously. Bowe would be a great number 2 reciever, but he just isn't good enough to count on as a number 1. This season is not over, we all knew this was going to be a tough game, it always is at Oakland. So I don't say how you can see the season is over, that's so stupid. Granted Casshole won't take us very far, if to the play offs at all, but we have a legit D, and a very good run game. I am more upset about how many points we didn't put up at the end of the second half. Instead of 10, we should have been going in with ATLEAST 16. I know, if you don't agree with me, I am a dipshit. And thats fine P.S. The reason we are not converting many 3rd and 1's is because teams know Casshole can't throw the ball, so they stack about 9 in the box.
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11-08-2010, 12:35 AM	#19
Bewbies Ith Fuhtbawl Time Join Date: Apr 2010 Casino cash: $9999900	The Raiders had a great game plan to make Cassel beat them, which everyone in the world knows he is not capable of doing. BUT, the Chiefs left a lot of points off the board in the first half, should have been over at halftime. Oh well, we'll beat em at Arrowhead.
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11-08-2010, 05:40 AM	#21
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	Everyone wants to keep crying about that Nick Miller fumble. He was bobbling it when he went to the ground. I don't know why it keeps getting discussed like it was some **** job for the Raiders when it was coming out. Also, it took a miracle play by Ford to force overtime. That play happens once a season if that. Raiders deserved to win, but Raider fan sticking his chest out like they are dominant team is hilarious on here. Raiders still trail the Chiefs in the division with a much tougher road. __________________
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11-08-2010, 08:08 AM	#25
tyton75 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3698386	agree with everythign I read: just want to add that #34 (daniels)? should be cut from the team after that pussified kickoff coverage that allowed the TD. He should have filled the Hole, but instead looked like a little girl and turned his back away from the blocker __________________
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11-08-2010, 09:29 AM	#28
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $2130400	So what, win some, lose some. Learn from it, move along. This team & coach is young, making a ton of mistakes and we haven't learned the killer approach to putting a team away when you have them down. On to Denver, time to regroup. __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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11-08-2010, 10:26 AM	#30
Chiefless Veteran Join Date: Jul 2001 Casino cash: $10007500	The problem with the passing game is a collective one. Coaching/play design, pass-protection, lack of separation by WR and QB play. All of them are duds. That entire phase of the game sucks moose caulk. I get that Cassle's play leaves much to be desired and I get why. But what do you get when you combine predictable play-design using WRs that can't get open in man coverage with a suspect QB given 3 steps to make a decision on 3rd and 8?
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