Royals Grienke to BREWERS - Page 2

kstater · 12-19-2010, 07:02 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5935586

Former Cy Young Award winner Zack Greinke has been traded to the Milwaukee Brewers, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney on Sunday morning.
In the deal, the Brewers would reportedly send the Royals outfielder Lorenzo Cain, shortstop Alcides Escobar and prospect pitchers Jake Odorizzi and Jeremy Jeffress for Greinke, 10-14 with a 4.17 ERA in 2010 with the Royals after winning the 2009 Cy Young.
The Brewers were expected to receive another major leaguer in the deal. Jim Breem of the blog "Bernie's Crew" reported that player to be shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt.

MarcBulger · 12-19-2010, 08:07 AM

Hate to see that...Being a Cards fan, but hell you can't get everyone...

**petegz28** · 12-19-2010, 08:10 AM

For some reason I am not regretting letting go of my season tickets.

crossbow · 12-19-2010, 08:11 AM

I hate this team now. Every player I ever liked got traded away for guys that aren't even on the team now. They keep screwing the fans and we keep voting them money for it.

easymobee · 12-19-2010, 08:13 AM

Rockies fans were ready to jump off a building after the Holliday trade.

Ended up getting Cargo in the end. A good defensive outfielder who hit approx .210 in the majors up to that point. Also getting a decent closer in Street.

Sometimes these things work out.

KC_Connection · 12-19-2010, 08:14 AM

I told you guys that you wouldn't get a package anywhere near Snider and Drabek for Greinke. Surprised that this was as much as Dayton Moore could get for him, but then again, he is Dayton Moore.

MarcBulger · 12-19-2010, 08:16 AM

THe Pirates made, cleared, after taxes, etc over 20 million last year...What do you think the Royals made?

Deberg_1990 · 12-19-2010, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by crossbow

They keep screwing the fans and we keep voting them money for it.

KC_Connection · 12-19-2010, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Congrats, Milwaukee. Christmas came early and you fleeced the dumbest GM in baseball. I take solace only in the fact that you'll have to listen to bullshit about how "the numbers don't tell the whole story" about Betancourt. I hope that mother****er costs you 3 runs per game when Greinke pitches.

In exchange for an ace, we received:
1. One legit pitching prospect.
2. A player who cannot hit and is supposed to be a plus defender, but who inexplicably couldn't field for shit last year.
3. A player who cannot hit.
4. A pitcher who is one strike away from being out of baseball.

Baird is in Boston laughing at this return.

Yeah, the only really good prospect here is Odorizzi and he's still years away from making an impact in the majors if he even gets there. Jeremy Jeffress has an incredible arm, but he's wild and looks tagged to be a reliever at the next level. And while they are still really young, Cain and Escobar look like nothing more than mediocre starters at the MLB level. Based on this deal, it seems like the Royals could have taken something like Anthony Gose, Yunel Escobar, and Zach Stewart from the Jays. That's about equivalent value, anyway.

Blindside58 · 12-19-2010, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Congrats, Milwaukee. Christmas came early and you fleeced the dumbest GM in baseball. I take solace only in the fact that you'll have to listen to bullshit about how "the numbers don't tell the whole story" about Betancourt. I hope that mother****er costs you 3 runs per game when Greinke pitches.

In exchange for an ace, we received:
1. One legit pitching prospect.
2. A player who cannot hit and is supposed to be a plus defender, but who inexplicably couldn't field for shit last year.
3. A player who cannot hit.
4. A pitcher who is one strike away from being out of baseball.

Baird is in Boston laughing at this return.

...And the Brewers got a Head Case that could chose to go mow lawns within a year! Greinke has been great, but I still worried that he was the type to just walk away at anytime ala Barry Sanders.

Pioli Zombie · 12-19-2010, 08:32 AM

So hard to know right now if this deal works out. So many times the team at the other end of the so-called ripoff ends up with 2 or 3 players that pan out. If Cain and Escobar live up to their scouting reports its a good deal. But then again its the Royals so get out the butt paste.

KC_Connection · 12-19-2010, 08:34 AM

I'm unsure that Jeffress' "marijuana problems" mean for his future. If he gets caught one more time, does that mean he's banned?

I'm not even sure MLB tests for marijuana use, it might just be MILB.

**notorious** · 12-19-2010, 08:35 AM

The Royals stopped giving a **** years ago, so why should you guys?

The Royals are the poster child for stupidity, and I have zero tolerance for it.

**DeezNutz** · 12-19-2010, 08:35 AM

The truth of the matter is that all Royals fans, myself included, can do is hope that what looks like a disaster on paper turns into something surprisingly good.

Escobar was once a highly thought of prospect for a reason, so we have to hope beyond hope that '09 was a fluke. If he's the goods, we'll almost certainly win the trade.

If.

**BigRedChief** · 12-19-2010, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

dammit

This!

oh welllll at least we will get to see a Pujols vs. Grienke match up.

**BigRedChief** · 12-19-2010, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

The truth of the matter is that all Royals fans, myself included, can do is hope that what looks like a disaster on paper turns into something surprisingly good.

Escobar was once a highly thought of prospect for a reason, so we have to hope beyond hope that '09 was a fluke. If he's the goods, we'll almost certainly win the trade.

If.

I saw Cain play last year. He looked like he had a lot potential.

12-19-2010, 07:02 AM
kstater Custom User Title Join Date: Jan 2007 Casino cash: $-1703437	Grienke to BREWERS http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=5935586 Former Cy Young Award winner Zack Greinke has been traded to the Milwaukee Brewers, sources told ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney on Sunday morning. In the deal, the Brewers would reportedly send the Royals outfielder Lorenzo Cain, shortstop Alcides Escobar and prospect pitchers Jake Odorizzi and Jeremy Jeffress for Greinke, 10-14 with a 4.17 ERA in 2010 with the Royals after winning the 2009 Cy Young. The Brewers were expected to receive another major leaguer in the deal. Jim Breem of the blog "Bernie's Crew" reported that player to be shortstop Yuniesky Betancourt.
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KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $1432783	I told you guys that you wouldn't get a package anywhere near Snider and Drabek for Greinke. Surprised that this was as much as Dayton Moore could get for him, but then again, he is Dayton Moore.
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MarcBulger Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Casino cash: $10004945	THe Pirates made, cleared, after taxes, etc over 20 million last year...What do you think the Royals made?
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Pioli Zombie Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: olathe,kansas Casino cash: $10004900	So hard to know right now if this deal works out. So many times the team at the other end of the so-called ripoff ends up with 2 or 3 players that pan out. If Cain and Escobar live up to their scouting reports its a good deal. But then again its the Royals so get out the butt paste.
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KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $1432783	I'm unsure that Jeffress' "marijuana problems" mean for his future. If he gets caught one more time, does that mean he's banned? I'm not even sure MLB tests for marijuana use, it might just be MILB.
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