Chiefs What are the holes that need to be filled via draft and free agency? - Page 2

**pr_capone** · 09:52 PM

As I see it.

Offense:

QB - 2nd String
WR - 2nd String - Tall and Fast. We need someone who can stretch the field and take the pressure off of Bowe.
LG - Starter / 2nd String - Asamouagh may be ready... but we need all the o-line help we can get.
C - Starter - This has been a position of need that has been flat neglected for years. This should be a HUGE priority.
RT - Starter - I never thought I would miss Jordan Black.

Now, I have a fantasy that I would like to share with you. Nothing would please me more than to see TJ stay with the team but change position to FB. The guy is big and strong, he can pass block (Lord knows if he can run block though), catch the ball out of the backfield, and can on occasion run w/the ball.

Sound like any two guys who excelled for this team at FB recently?

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Defense:

LDE - Starter
DT - Starter
OLB - Starter & 2nd String - Vrabel is done. Either give Andy a shot at OLB or draft a starting bookend for Hali. Or both... **** it. We need bodies here.
S - Starter / 2nd String - McGraw gives everything he has each week... but he is only slightly more talented than Boomer Grigsby which has allowed him to stay on the team. Lewis looks promising but we can never have too much talent helping over the top.

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**pr_capone** · 01-02-2011, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

When you look at the list of needs, you begin to realize that Haley and staff were miracle workers.

No kidding. If they can go 10-6 with the current team... imagine what can happen next season with even more talent across the board.

Extra Point · 01-02-2011, 09:45 PM

Draftabulashun shenshashun!

pr, I agree with your picks. It all depends on the skill ranking in the draft and who we can get at the trade/waiver opportunities.

Marcellus · 01-02-2011, 09:46 PM

Is this a Rex Ryan's wife thread?

**The Bad Guy** · 01-02-2011, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

When you look at the list of needs, you begin to realize that Haley and staff were miracle workers.

I don't know about that.

We all knew this team needed a WR, NT, OLB.

I think the needs are far fewer than I would have thought during year 3 of this tenure.

milkman · 01-02-2011, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

I don't know about that.

We all knew this team needed a WR, NT, OLB.

I think the needs are far fewer than I would have thought during year 3 of this tenure.

Even if those were the only needs, those are pretty big holes.

But I think there are more needs than just those three positions, and depth is a huge need, as well.

beach tribe · 01-02-2011, 09:55 PM

In order of most needed, but not necessarily in the order of priority when it comes to acquiring them.

NT. Ron Edwards was 5 yards off the ball all day.

Pass Rusher. Another top flight guy could make Tamba............damn. Can you imagine?

WR. Need a talented guy here. I would like to see a Vet, and a rook brought in. WRs usually need a cpl years to develop.

C.Need a top notch replacement.

OT. Don't really know how much of a barometer today's game was. Albert had a flat out horrible day. He's better than what he showed today, and there's film to prove it. I really think some of it was due to the protection schemes, but won't act as if he didn't get his ass whipped. Richardson will provide very good depth. We need a stud RT to bookend.

Powerback. Don't know if Battle is the guy here. TJ is done IMO. I said he would be done by now earlier in the season, and got ripped for it.(REALLY wanted L. Blount in this past draft).

Safety depth. The team looks horrible in pass coverage when one of our safeties can't go.

OG depth. Not really a huge need, but could always use another talented guy. Mike Goff is proof that you cannot just plug guys in between the tackles.

I think we are good at DE. Gilberry is coming along, and T. Jackson will either make or break next season. I've said all along, I think he's going to be more than serviceable by halfway through next season. We'll see though I guess.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-02-2011, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

Even if those were the only needs, those are pretty big holes.

But I think there are more needs than just those three positions, and depth is a huge need, as well.

No, I agree with you.

We need a C and RT, but those are probably the 2 easiest positions to fill rounds 4-6 in the draft.

beach tribe · 01-02-2011, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by morphius

ILB - Belcher is terrible, my BiL who coaches D in HS has pointed this out to me and it watching him it is pretty obvious how often he puts himself out of the play and leaves a big gap for us to be run up the middle on.

Forgot about ILB. Belcher's problems can be fixed, but who knows if they will. He's got the physical, but he's missing on the mental. Took DJ a Looong time to grasp the mental. Maybe Belcher should just be a depth guy. I really though Demorrio W. played better than him when he was in there, but it was usually only in passing sit. where he is a Lot better than Belcher. If we landed a 3 down guy here, we would have pretty good depth at ILB IMO.

Hootie · 01-02-2011, 10:00 PM

NT, WR2, RT, C, TE2

Hootie · 01-02-2011, 10:00 PM

and a pass rusher

googlegoogle · 01-02-2011, 10:00 PM

'WR - 2nd String - Tall and Fast. We need someone who can stretch the field and take the pressure off of Bowe.'

Was bowe doubled or even pressured. The faiders have good corners.

Hammock Parties · 01-02-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Forgot about ILB. Belcher's problems can be fixed, but who knows if they will. He's got the physical, but he's missing on the mental.

Disagree on this.

The guy's change of direction is incredibly slooooooooow. He is not quick, at all, and for a guy who is only 230 pounds that's not good.

He has had an OK year on heart and guts alone.

I think this is a secondary need though. We can get away with starting Belcher for another year.

mnchiefsguy · 01-02-2011, 10:02 PM

Honestly, I would put a pass rusher near the top of our needs. As great as Hali has been, our defense needs to put more pressure on the qb. D-line and O-line help, then go to WR. I think if we improve in the trenches, we have enough skill players to be successful next year. We lack depth and a certain toughness in the trenches.

milkman · 01-02-2011, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by googlegoogle

'WR - 2nd String - Tall and Fast. We need someone who can stretch the field and take the pressure off of Bowe.'

Was bowe doubled or even pressured. The faiders have good corners.

The problem is that if you can take Bowe out of the game, then the Chiefs have nothing else at WR that Cassel can target reliably.

Chiefs Rool · 01-02-2011, 10:05 PM

none, the holes will fill us.

01-02-2011, 09:25 PM
pr_capone ** SOC & ** YOU Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Chiefs Hell Casino cash: $10008214	What are the holes that need to be filled via draft and free agency? As I see it. Offense: QB - 2nd String WR - 2nd String - Tall and Fast. We need someone who can stretch the field and take the pressure off of Bowe. LG - Starter / 2nd String - Asamouagh may be ready... but we need all the o-line help we can get. C - Starter - This has been a position of need that has been flat neglected for years. This should be a HUGE priority. RT - Starter - I never thought I would miss Jordan Black. Now, I have a fantasy that I would like to share with you. Nothing would please me more than to see TJ stay with the team but change position to FB. The guy is big and strong, he can pass block (Lord knows if he can run block though), catch the ball out of the backfield, and can on occasion run w/the ball. Sound like any two guys who excelled for this team at FB recently? --------- Defense: LDE - Starter DT - Starter OLB - Starter & 2nd String - Vrabel is done. Either give Andy a shot at OLB or draft a starting bookend for Hali. Or both... **** it. We need bodies here. S - Starter / 2nd String - McGraw gives everything he has each week... but he is only slightly more talented than Boomer Grigsby which has allowed him to stay on the team. Lewis looks promising but we can never have too much talent helping over the top. --------- If repost... Last edited by pr_capone; 01-02-2011 at 09:52 PM..
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beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $4698036	In order of most needed, but not necessarily in the order of priority when it comes to acquiring them. NT. Ron Edwards was 5 yards off the ball all day. Pass Rusher. Another top flight guy could make Tamba............damn. Can you imagine? WR. Need a talented guy here. I would like to see a Vet, and a rook brought in. WRs usually need a cpl years to develop. C.Need a top notch replacement. OT. Don't really know how much of a barometer today's game was. Albert had a flat out horrible day. He's better than what he showed today, and there's film to prove it. I really think some of it was due to the protection schemes, but won't act as if he didn't get his ass whipped. Richardson will provide very good depth. We need a stud RT to bookend. Powerback. Don't know if Battle is the guy here. TJ is done IMO. I said he would be done by now earlier in the season, and got ripped for it.(REALLY wanted L. Blount in this past draft). Safety depth. The team looks horrible in pass coverage when one of our safeties can't go. OG depth. Not really a huge need, but could always use another talented guy. Mike Goff is proof that you cannot just plug guys in between the tackles. I think we are good at DE. Gilberry is coming along, and T. Jackson will either make or break next season. I've said all along, I think he's going to be more than serviceable by halfway through next season. We'll see though I guess.
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googlegoogle Banned Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	'WR - 2nd String - Tall and Fast. We need someone who can stretch the field *and take the pressure off of Bowe.'* Was bowe doubled or even pressured. The faiders have good corners.
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