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Old 02-04-2011, 09:10 PM   #1
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The franchise tag needs to be changed up a bit anyway. In theory you can franchise someone different every single year.

If this is part of negotiations it'll turn into a tag you can't use as much, which in the end will be a great thing. Teams shouldn't be using 'franchise' tags on anyone but 'franchise' players.
Why?
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Old 02-04-2011, 11:48 PM   #2
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Franchise tags are for people like Peyton Manning, not an idiot kicker. Most of the players that are given the franchise tag today are not franchise players. If a team wants to keep a guy they should resign him before his contract is up.

If it were up to me I think I'd keep the franchise tag but make it so that you could only use it again if the guy you used it on is no longer on your team. So if we tagged Hali for instance, until he's no longer a Chief we would be unable to franchise tag anyone else.

With a system like that 2nd or 3rd tier players, or say backup QB's who weren't good enough to play in college, would no longer be the kind of player you would want to tag.
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Old 02-05-2011, 09:15 AM   #3
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Franchise tags are for people like Peyton Manning, not an idiot kicker. Most of the players that are given the franchise tag today are not franchise players. If a team wants to keep a guy they should resign him before his contract is up.

If it were up to me I think I'd keep the franchise tag but make it so that you could only use it again if the guy you used it on is no longer on your team. So if we tagged Hali for instance, until he's no longer a Chief we would be unable to franchise tag anyone else.

With a system like that 2nd or 3rd tier players, or say backup QB's who weren't good enough to play in college, would no longer be the kind of player you would want to tag.
That's not really an answer to why your position makes more sense than the current system. It's really more of a restatement of that position. Would you feel better about the current system if they changed the name from "franchise tag" to "retention tag"?

The way the current system works reduces the team to team mobility of a larger group of the leagues better players than your system would while still giving most players a shot at free agency that they didn't have under the pre-free agency system. As a fan, I like having more continuity on the roster.
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:33 PM   #4
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:54 PM   #6
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It's a bargaining chip to be played, that's about it. The players would have been fine with just extending the agreement as is, but the owners didn't want to do it.
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Old 02-04-2011, 03:52 PM   #9
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It's a bargaining chip to be played, that's about it. The players would have been fine with just extending the agreement as is, but the owners didn't want to do it.
maybe, maybe not

Of course the players are playing the "let us play, don't change things and mess it up" card now. That's because the owners have asked for concession back because they feel they gave up too much during the last agreement.

It's a pretty good bet that if the Owners weren't asking for stuff back that the players would be asking for more themselves.
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It's a pretty good bet that if the Owners weren't asking for stuff back that the players would be asking for more themselves.
Well, they didn't last time.
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if the players are worth as much as they say they are, why do they need a union?
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if the players are worth as much as they say they are, why do they need a union?
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Well, they didn't last time.
yes, the did.

March 9, 2006, 12:52 PM ET

NFL owners approve six-year CBA extension


The league agreed Wednesday to the union's proposal, including a revenue-sharing component that will cost owners nearly a billion dollars over the next six years.

Tagliabue said $850 million to $900 million in players' salary will be added over the life of the deal because of the revenue-sharing component, which the union fought for throughout the on-again, off-again talks.

The agreement concludes weeks of contentious negotiations between the league and the NFL Players' Association. The new extension will add $7.5 million to the 2006 salary cap, pushing it to $102 million, Mortensen reports. Without a CBA extension, the 2006 cap would have been $94.5 million. The 2007 cap will be $109 million.

full article: http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2360258
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