Chiefs Haley going to run conservative Offense - Page 2

**chiefforlife** · 02-13-2011, 09:23 AM

Matt Cassel - QB - Chiefs

Chiefs HC Todd Haley wants to run "a meat and potatoes offense" in 2011.
That's good news for Jamaal Charles' fantasy stock, and bad news for Matt Cassel's. Former OC Charlie Weis reportedly left because he wanted "to use a lot of shotgun and spread formations while jazzing up the offense," while Haley wanted to remain conservative. After it became public that Weis was leaving last season, Cassel posted a 0:5 TD-to-INT ratio in two games.
Related: Jamaal Charles
Source: National Football Post
Feb 13, 9:48:00 AM

FloridaMan88 · 02-13-2011, 09:58 AM

In other words Haley and Pioli are going to do everything in their power to hide Cassel's many many flaws.

It is amazing that Haley, a guy who was hired because of his career as an offensive coordinator/WR's coach is going to do everything in his power to apparently make the Chiefs passing game vanish.

You can't compete in today's NFL without a decent passing game.

Haley is going to try to compete with a Bill Parcells strategy, circa 1987.

keg in kc · 02-13-2011, 10:00 AM

I find this hard to believe. Wasn't the story all year that they kept butting heads because Haley wanted more passing? Didn't he supposedly take over playcalling in the second half of the Baltimore game?

B_Ambuehl · 02-13-2011, 10:02 AM

This was a meat and potatoes offense in '10 under Weis. Cassel wasn't asked to do much because he can't. His rating was artificially inflated by a great play action attach (a shitty schedule had a lot to do with the success of that) and a lot of 1 yard TD passes off play action down on the goal line. The sad thing is Haley is probably gonna go down in flames when Cassel reverts back to what he is which we all saw the last few games of the year.

mcaj22 · 02-13-2011, 10:26 AM

yea it's sad to say but Haley/Cassel are probably going down in a sinking ship together.

If we ever see another starting QB for the Chiefs it will also be with a different HC imo.

InChiefsHeaven · 02-13-2011, 10:32 AM

I can't see this happening, it just doesn't sound like Haley to me. I thought this year's offensive plan was pretty good balance, no mad bombs, but we have some tools to run a pretty solid passing game. Cassel of course is the key, but a new speedy GOOD wide receiver is also needed. I can't see Haley doing 3 yards and a cloud of dust...

salame · 02-13-2011, 10:35 AM

oh ****

**notorious** · 02-13-2011, 10:37 AM

Pittsburgh conservative = Good

Herm Chiefs conservative = Antifreeze

kstater · 02-13-2011, 10:40 AM

I'm going to go ahead and panic beacause the coach wants to run an offense that runs and passes well.

Brock · 02-13-2011, 10:50 AM

Well, what did you think, it was a good thing he ran off a real OC?

threebag · 02-13-2011, 10:57 AM

Too bad we couldn't trade cassel

KCUnited · 02-13-2011, 11:12 AM

Wife wants pizza and beer for V-Day, I'll see if I can get this story confirmed.

Mr. Laz · 02-13-2011, 11:14 AM

I told ya

everyone kept saying that Weis was the one who was pushing the conservative plays but the 1st year when Haley called the plays says different. We won't know until the season starts but it seams to me that Haley is run,run,pass,punt type guy.

we'll see

Mr. Laz · 02-13-2011, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc

I find this hard to believe. Wasn't the story all year that they kept butting heads because Haley wanted more passing? Didn't he supposedly take over playcalling in the second half of the Baltimore game?

I've never seen ANY indication that is was Haley that wanted more passing. People around here just thought that because of the offense in Arizona.

When Haley pulled Cassel it was because he was being too aggressive when Haley just wanted 3 yrds and a cloud of dust. Imo.

Imo Weis is also gone because he wanted a wide open offense and Haley didn't. I think a lot of people are in for a rude awakening when we see martyball back in town under Haley/Muir.

people wonder why i was so pissed when Weis left...

**DeezNutz** · 02-13-2011, 11:25 AM

If true, might as well change the headline to "Haley going to run himself out of town."

**BigMeatballDave** · 02-13-2011, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR

That is definitely not what Haley ran in Arizona. At all.
Posted via Mobile Device

Thats because Haley had SB winning QB in Arizona...

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