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Old 06-01-2011, 01:21 PM  
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Shaq retires
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After a mentally exhausting season in which he was unable to overcome the effects of a right Achilles injury as a member of the Boston Celtics, Shaquille O'Neal has decided to retire after 19 NBA seasons.

In typical O'Neal fashion, he chose the unconventional approach of announcing his retirement via social media. He posted a short video on a new social media site called Tout in which he said:

"We did it. Nineteen years baby," he said in the message. "I want to thank you very much, that's why I'm telling you first, I'm about to retire. Thank you, talk to you soon."

O'Neal walks away with four championship rings, three Finals MVP trophies, one MVP award, and 15 All-Star appearances. O'Neal, a two-time NBA scoring champion, is fifth all-time on the NBA's list for career points (28,596) and 12th in total rebounds (13,099).

O'Neal arrived in Boston last August declaring he had 730 days -- or two more seasons -- in his NBA career, but he couldn't endure the first 365. Riddled by injuries, most notably the lingering Achilles ailment, he appeared in just 37 regular-season games and limped through two playoff appearances for Boston, playing a mere 17½ minutes after Feb. 1.

Upon arriving in Boston, O'Neal injected newfound lightheartedness in Boston's training camp and quickly endeared himself to the region with stunts like posing as a statue in Harvard Square, conducting a holiday medley with the Boston Pops, and dressing in drag for Halloween.

But even as the Celtics thrived when he was on the court -- enough so for Boston to consider trading away starting center Kendrick Perkins at the February trade deadline -- O'Neal struggled to stay on the court due to a myriad of injuries on the right side of his body.

No amount of rehab and medicine could cure the ailing Achilles, which limited him to one appearance after Feb. 1, a 5½-minute stint against the Detroit Pistons in early April that saw him limp right back off the court when the injury flared.

O'Neal played small minutes in Games 3 and 4 of an Eastern Conference semifinal series against the Heat before being deactivated for Game 5 as the Celtics season ended in Miami.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:39 PM   #16
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:41 PM   #17
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:43 PM   #18
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Hakeem did dominate his ass as a young player in the finals. I think it would have been a different story with both of them in their primes. They were closer than most think though. I think Hakeem maybe the most underrated player ever.

Shaq and Hakeem are the best two centers since I've been watching. I would give Shaq the edge though.

I'm not old enough to remember Wilt or Russell and Kareem was pretty old and played no defense. I remember him walking up the court. His hook shoot may have been the most unstoppable shot ever though.
They were close statistically & in accolades, but even there Shaq gets the edge.

Shaq - 19 seasons
Points 28,596
Rebounds 13,099
Blocks 2,732
4x NBA Champion
3x Finals MVP
1x NBA MVP
15x NBA All-Star
2x NBA scoring champ
8x All-NBA First Team
2x All-NBA Second Team
4x All-NBA Third Team
3x All-Defense Second Team

Hakeem - 18 seasons
Points 26,946
Rebounds 13,747
Blocks 3,830
2x NBA Champion
2x Finals MVP
1x NBA MVP
12x NBA All-Star
6x All-NBA First Team
3x All-NBA Second Team
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:45 PM   #19
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at least 4 or 5 others.
I'd put him in a list with all the above, so top 15 or so
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:47 PM   #20
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They were close statistically & in accolades, but even there Shaq gets the edge.

Shaq - 19 seasons
Points 28,596
Rebounds 13,099
Blocks 2,732
4x NBA Champion
3x Finals MVP
1x NBA MVP
15x NBA All-Star
2x NBA scoring champ
8x All-NBA First Team
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1x NBA MVP
12x NBA All-Star
6x All-NBA First Team
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5x All-Defense First Team
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I don't think Shaq ever got the due he deserved as a defender. Dude completely altered the other team's offense because of his ability to actively take up space in the paint.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:47 PM   #21
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:53 PM   #24
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I don't think Shaq ever got the due he deserved as a defender. Dude completely altered the other team's offense because of his ability to actively take up space in the paint.
Imagine Dwight Howard if Howard could also drop 40 points on you if he felt like it.

People remember old fat Shaq and forget the guy in Orlando and his first few seasons in LA. He completely altered his opponents game plan both offensively and defensively.
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Old 06-01-2011, 01:55 PM   #25
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I'd put him in a list with all the above, so top 15 or so
If you're just talking centers, he's up there. Maybe not with the Dynamic Duo (Wilt Chamberlain and Bill Russell) but he's right behind them, probably after Kareem but before Olajuwon. I'd also place Robert Parish in there (underrated).

Comparing it to QBs, Shaq is probably in the Elway/Marino/Aikman range. Not Montana, and not even Brady/P.Manning, but right up there.
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Probably 4th best center of all time.
I'll catch crap for this, but I would put him ahead of Russell. I say 3rd.
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I'll never know how to rank Shaq. It's kinda hard to stop a 300 pound seven footer when he's 4 feet from the goal.
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Hakeem was awesome, and I love Hakeem. The Dream Shake was a killer, but Shaq was a more dominant player. I would say Shaq is over Hakeem.
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I'd likely care a little bit if Shaq wasn't a colossal douche....
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