Football ESPN: Ranking the AFCW Defensive Backs - Page 2

Ugly Duck · 07-05-2011, 12:04 PM

Looks like Bill Williamson likes Eric Berry & thinks the Oakland backs will suck without Nnamdi. Same for Denver if they lose the ancient old aged Champ. Seems to like Sandy Eggo:

1. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland: This may change. Many league observers expect Asomugha to leave the Raiders when free agency starts. That would be a major hit to this list.

2. Champ Bailey, Denver: Bailey is aging, but he is still an elite-level player.

3. Eric Berry, Kansas City: Berry could be atop this list next year. The second-year safety appears to be a special player.

4. Quentin Jammer, San Diego: The veteran cornerback is underrated. He is a stalwart.

5. Brandon Flowers, Kansas City: He is a favorite of NFL scouts. He is becoming one of the better young cornerbacks in the league.

6. Eric Weddle, San Diego: He is a top safety and a playmaker.

7. Stanford Routt, Oakland: This is a big year for Routt, who just signed a big contract with the Raiders. He’ll be challenged if Asomugha leaves.

8. Antoine Cason, San Diego: Cason is an up-and-coming player. He was very solid is his first season as a starter last year.

9. Brandon Carr, Kansas City: Carr is a strong right cornerback. He and Flowers make a nice tandem.

10. Bob Sanders, San Diego: The new Charger has to show he can stay healthy. If so, he’ll be a great pickup.

11. Tyvon Branch, Oakland: Branch is a good, strong player, but he still has to improve.

12. Michael Huff, Oakland: Huff is decent, not great. He could leave in free agency.

13. Andre Goodman, Denver: He is nearing the end of his career, but he’ll probably start in 2011.

14. Brian Dawkins, Denver: This could be his final season.

15. Steve Gregory, San Diego: He is a solid role player.

16. Kendrick Lewis, Kansas City: Lewis and Berry could be a pair for years.

17. Chris Johnson, Oakland: He could start if Asomugha leaves and the youngsters aren’t ready.

18. Javier Arenas, Kansas City: He could be a good nickel for the long term.

19. Mike Mitchell, Oakland: It’s time for this 2009 second-round pick to make a move.

20. Rahim Moore, Denver: I have a feeling this second-round pick will be ranked much higher next year.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...efensive-backs

**ChiefGator** · 07-05-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Ugly Duck

2. Champ Bailey, Denver Bailey is aging, but he is still an elite-level player.

13. Andre Goodman, Denver He is nearing the end of his career, but he’ll probably start in 2011.

14. Brian Dawkins, Denver:This could be his final season.

LAST. Rahim Moore, Denver

Woah... the Denver backfield is really going to have to rebuild soon.

Garcia Bronco · 07-05-2011, 12:56 PM

I've never seen Champ abused the way I have seen Aso get abused.

**QuikSsurfer** · 07-05-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

When we blew you guys out in the first game we were playing a very soft zone from the first quarter on. I don't even think Bowe had a catch on Champ when Champ was playing man to man.

He didn't

Quesadilla Joe · 07-05-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

Woah... the Denver backfield is really going to have to rebuild soon.

We already did. We have guys like R. Moore, Quinton Carter, Darcel McBath, Perish Cox, Sydquan Thompson, and Cassius Vaughn who are all under 25 years old.

**Saul Good** · 07-05-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

We already did. We have guys like R. Moore, Quinton Carter, Darcel McBath, Perish Cox, Sydquan Thompson, and Cassius Vaughn who are all under 25 years old.

And on your deathbed, you will receive total conciousness, so you've got that going for you.

**Saul Good** · 07-05-2011, 01:09 PM

The best D-Back Denver has that doesn't qualify for AARP ranks 20th in a 4 team division. That team has no strengths. Can we put Josh McD into the Chiefs Ring of Honor today?

**ChiefGator** · 07-05-2011, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

We already did. We have guys like R. Moore, Quinton Carter, Darcel McBath, Perish Cox, Sydquan Thompson, and Cassius Vaughn who are all under 25 years old.

I wouldn't get guys like them. They are mostly slow and not very good. Get some guys like some other people.

Bailey is still surprisingly good, but you have to think he starts to slump soon. Obviously, Denver got the best from the Portis-Bailey trade.

DBOSHO · 07-05-2011, 01:23 PM

LOL eric weddle. That guy couldnt cover himself with a blanket.

Ugly Duck · 07-05-2011, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

The best D-Back Denver has that doesn't qualify for AARP ranks 20th in a 4 team division. That team has no strengths.

KnowMo knows mo about his team than you do & he says that all the young Denver DBs actually belong at the TOP of the list. You guys just refuse to give any credit to the knowledge of rival fans.

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Nice job of holding him just under 100 yards per game and 1 TD pg.

As KnowMo said - an absolute shutdown.

**Saul Good** · 07-05-2011, 01:37 PM

In all honesty, what does Denver have going for their team? Their team is a disaster, and I can't figure out what they can build around.

Tebow at QB? Maybe, but that seems like a long shot.

WRs? Their #1 draft pick athletic freak is always broken, and Lloyd is 100 years old.

RB? Their #1 draft pick is a bust.

D-backs? Looks like the buffet line at Country Kitchen.

Front 7? Elvis is broke, and Miller's going to be playing out of position.

I guess their O-line is their strength by default, yet they were still one of the worst rushing teams in the NFL.

Even their message boards suck.

BigCatDaddy · 07-05-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

In all honesty, what does Denver have going for their team? Their team is a disaster, and I can't figure out what they can build around.

Tebow at QB? Maybe, but that seems like a long shot.

WRs? Their #1 draft pick athletic freak is always broken, and Lloyd is 100 years old.

RB? Their #1 draft pick is a bust.

D-backs? Looks like the buffet line at Country Kitchen.

Front 7? Elvis is broke, and Miller's going to be playing out of position.

I guess their O-line is their strength by default, yet they were still one of the worst rushing teams in the NFL.

Even their message boards suck.

Beautiful isn't it?

bowener · 07-05-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He absolutely shut down Bowe when he was covering him last year. Champ is still a top 3 corner.

Perrish Cox, Sydquan Thompson, and Andre Goodman should be in the top in this list,

I will not deny that Bowe did shit against Bailey, however I would like to offer a differing reason as to why Bowe was shut down: Cassel sucks and is too scared to throw in to tight windows (for pretty good reasons since his accuracy is suspect at times).

The Ravens game is the perfect example. BAL's corners are pretty bad, yet they managed to stick to Bowe's hip or close enough that Cassel was too scared to make a throw. Eventually (after 2 drives) Cassel completely stopped looking for Bowe.

Something like that.

bowener · 07-05-2011, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefGator

I wouldn't get guys like them. They are mostly slow and not very good. Get some guys like some other people.

Bailey is still surprisingly good, but you have to think he starts to slump soon. Obviously, Denver got the best from the Portis-Bailey trade.

Denver knew they had it in the bag when Bailey could actually read.

**ChiefGator** · 07-05-2011, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bowener

Denver knew they had it in the bag when Bailey could actually read.

Yeah, it wasn't hard to hate Portis... what a prick with that wrestling belt stunt on the sideline.

Ugly Duck · 07-05-2011, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

In all honesty, what does Denver have going for their team?

If they can manage to sew Dumervil's pectoral muscle back onto his sternum, he's gonna be the bright spot on that team.

07-05-2011, 12:04 PM
Ugly Duck MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Petaluma, CA, USA Casino cash: $9955920	ESPN: Ranking the AFCW Defensive Backs Looks like Bill Williamson likes Eric Berry & thinks the Oakland backs will suck without Nnamdi. Same for Denver if they lose the ancient old aged Champ. Seems to like Sandy Eggo: 1. Nnamdi Asomugha, Oakland: This may change. Many league observers expect Asomugha to leave the Raiders when free agency starts. That would be a major hit to this list. 2. Champ Bailey, Denver: Bailey is aging, but he is still an elite-level player. 3. Eric Berry, Kansas City: Berry could be atop this list next year. The second-year safety appears to be a special player. 4. Quentin Jammer, San Diego: The veteran cornerback is underrated. He is a stalwart. 5. Brandon Flowers, Kansas City: He is a favorite of NFL scouts. He is becoming one of the better young cornerbacks in the league. 6. Eric Weddle, San Diego: He is a top safety and a playmaker. 7. Stanford Routt, Oakland: This is a big year for Routt, who just signed a big contract with the Raiders. He’ll be challenged if Asomugha leaves. 8. Antoine Cason, San Diego: Cason is an up-and-coming player. He was very solid is his first season as a starter last year. 9. Brandon Carr, Kansas City: Carr is a strong right cornerback. He and Flowers make a nice tandem. 10. Bob Sanders, San Diego: The new Charger has to show he can stay healthy. If so, he’ll be a great pickup. 11. Tyvon Branch, Oakland: Branch is a good, strong player, but he still has to improve. 12. Michael Huff, Oakland: Huff is decent, not great. He could leave in free agency. 13. Andre Goodman, Denver: He is nearing the end of his career, but he’ll probably start in 2011. 14. Brian Dawkins, Denver: This could be his final season. 15. Steve Gregory, San Diego: He is a solid role player. 16. Kendrick Lewis, Kansas City: Lewis and Berry could be a pair for years. 17. Chris Johnson, Oakland: He could start if Asomugha leaves and the youngsters aren’t ready. 18. Javier Arenas, Kansas City: He could be a good nickel for the long term. 19. Mike Mitchell, Oakland: It’s time for this 2009 second-round pick to make a move. 20. Rahim Moore, Denver: I have a feeling this second-round pick will be ranked much higher next year. http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...efensive-backs
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	In all honesty, what does Denver have going for their team? Their team is a disaster, and I can't figure out what they can build around. Tebow at QB? Maybe, but that seems like a long shot. WRs? Their #1 draft pick athletic freak is always broken, and Lloyd is 100 years old. RB? Their #1 draft pick is a bust. D-backs? Looks like the buffet line at Country Kitchen. Front 7? Elvis is broke, and Miller's going to be playing out of position. I guess their O-line is their strength by default, yet they were still one of the worst rushing teams in the NFL. Even their message boards suck. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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