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Old 08-02-2011, 08:54 PM  
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Any decent free agents left?

So we lost a few guys even just today that I think quite a few people were hoping we'd sign - Ryan Harris, Franklin, Warren, etc.. I scrounged to come up with a few names that are left at positions of need for us but there doesn't seem to be much left over that would help us out -

NT - Pat Williams? He's 38 but could at least be depth since all we have is Gregg and Powe

OT - Gaither, Max Starks, Flozell Adams, Bryant McKinnie? Most of these guys are either hurt or showed up to camp out of shape and were cut

ILB - Channing Crowder, Lofa Tatupu, Kirk Morrison. Crowder and Morrision would be quality signs...Tatupu was hurt and supposedly has lost a step.

OLB - Matt Roth. Close to signing with the Bears though....

DE - Drawing a blank here....Warren was the last guy I thought would make an impact

WR - Still some quality with Malcolm Floyd, Mike Williams and Braylon Edwards. Not sure WR is a large priority for us anymore

RB - Michael Bush and McClain are still out there I think. I'd take either to replace Thomas Jones.

That's it unless there's someone I'm overlooking? I think we're out of luck on any further Oline or Dline help. Still possible to get a decent middle linebacker unless we're standing pat after the Siler signing. Wouldn't mind picking up one of those two RBs either....
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:23 PM   #16
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Starks and McClain would be nice. I think it's time to focus on resigning Carr, Flowers, Hali and Bowe.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:26 PM   #17
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We for sure need a vet #2 QB for the entire season. Cut Palko and sign one.

Always could use more depth on the lines and at LB in a 3-4.

Pioli said the other day they were still looking at WR.

Some may want to push Thomas Jones out the door but I don't see it happening. To much man love from Haley.
Why do we need a washed up, never gonna be, backup vet QB?
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:26 PM   #18
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I don't hate the guy. I just don't think he is a complete football player.

He is pretty one dimensional. Solid run blocker, but as a pass protector he has his share of struggles against the speed rushers.
I disagree.

Richardson has the tools to be an elite pass protector, and if you watched closely, there were plays when he looked like the best RT in the game.

His problem is, and always has been, focus.

If he could maintain his focus and give full effort each and every play, he would lock down the position for the next 10 years.

We need to bring in a starter quality RT to compete, because you can not rely on Richardson to maintain any consistency unless you can find a way to keep him focused.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:32 PM   #19
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I'm beginning to hope Studebaker wins that job.
I just don't think you can depend on either of the young guys being ready to step in and contribute right away. Sheffield coming back from injury and Houston being on such short time.
I've seen nothing that would indicate Studebaker is anything more than a backup/special teams player honestly.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:33 PM   #20
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Maybe the Chiefs don't need McClain. I suppose I could live with Thomas Jones for another season. It would make Trent Richardson an exciting possibility in next year's draft. Let's say we're picking in the late teens into the 20s.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:37 PM   #21
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I hope. We still have holes that need to be adressed IMO.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:37 PM   #22
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What about saftey. We only have Mcgraw.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:40 PM   #23
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I disagree.

Richardson has the tools to be an elite pass protector, and if you watched closely, there were plays when he looked like the best RT in the game.

His problem is, and always has been, focus.

If he could maintain his focus and give full effort each and every play, he would lock down the position for the next 10 years.

We need to bring in a starter quality RT to compete, because you can not rely on Richardson to maintain any consistency unless you can find a way to keep him focused.
I am not a Richardson fan, but this post is a homerun evaluation of how he should be dealt with.

When he was pulled last year, it seemed to light a fire under his ass and I think if there was legit competition for his job, he would continue to play like a player with a fire under his ass.

It could backfire, but if it does he really isnt the guy we wanted all along anyways.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:44 PM   #24
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I hear McCluster is getting time in at WR during camp as well so those reports about him sticking to RB and ST may have been overblown.
When I was there Sunday (admittedly, very small sample size), he was working with the RBs.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:45 PM   #25
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Starks and McClain would be nice. I think it's time to focus on resigning Carr, Flowers, Hali and Bowe.
I've heard Starks is extremely out of shape. I really doubt that would fly with the current regime.
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Old 08-02-2011, 09:56 PM   #26
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I disagree.

Richardson has the tools to be an elite pass protector, and if you watched closely, there were plays when he looked like the best RT in the game.

His problem is, and always has been, focus.

If he could maintain his focus and give full effort each and every play, he would lock down the position for the next 10 years.

We need to bring in a starter quality RT to compete, because you can not rely on Richardson to maintain any consistency unless you can find a way to keep him focused.
Thats his problem he lacks discipline. If he had that, I'd be pretty content with him. His problem is more mental than anything. For me, as a fan, it bothers me to see inconsistent performances from players. But nothing is more frustrating than seeing inconsistent performances from offensive lineman.

If a player wants to be successful, he has to perform on a consistent basis. Anything less is unacceptable imo. If he is inconsistent, it pretty much defines him as a failure. There were times when he played well, and then there were times when he really sucked. What bothered me was that he sucked as the season went on. That shouldn't happen. It should be the opposite.


I can understand he is a young football player. I also understand football is a physical game, and as the season goes on, one's own body can wear down.
But if his issue is losing focus as the season goes on, to me thats a bad sign. It shows that he lacks mental toughness. He can have all the technique and tools in the world to be an all-pro, but, if he doesn't have it mentally, then thats a real problem imo.

I'll root for the guy and I sure hope he can develop into a good one. We'll see. Only time will tell.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:01 PM   #27
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I've seen nothing that would indicate Studebaker is anything more than a backup/special teams player honestly.
Well whatever you've seen from Studebaker...
We've seen EVEN LESS from Sheffield and Houston.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:02 PM   #28
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What about saftey. We only have Mcgraw.
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He doesnt lack discipline IMO.

He lacks the knowledge as to WHO to block when teams chose to overload his side in a blitz.

When he does block someone, he eliminates him from the play...but when he gets confused, he simply doesnt block the right guy and Cassel gets pummeled.

Thats what I saw anyway.
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:04 PM   #30
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Thats his problem he lacks discipline. If he had that, I'd be pretty content with him. His problem is more mental than anything. For me, as a fan, it bothers me to see inconsistent performances from players. But nothing is more frustrating than seeing inconsistent performances from offensive lineman.

If a player wants to be successful, he has to perform on a consistent basis. Anything less is unacceptable imo. If he is inconsistent, it pretty much defines him as a failure. There were times when he played well, and then there were times when he really sucked. What bothered me was that he sucked as the season went on. That shouldn't happen. It should be the opposite.


I can understand he is a young football player. I also understand football is a physical game, and as the season goes on, one's own body can wear down.
But if his issue is losing focus as the season goes on, to me thats a bad sign. It shows that he lacks mental toughness. He can have all the technique and tools in the world to be an all-pro, but, if he doesn't have it mentally, then thats a real problem imo.

I'll root for the guy and I sure hope he can develop into a good one. We'll see. Only time will tell.
He is young, and some people mature later than others.

Last year he seemed to start to show signs of just starting to mature, but still fell back into bad habits.
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