Chiefs Desired Characteristics in the Next Head Coach - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 12-12-2011, 07:11 PM

It'll take me a few minutes to get the poll put up, so in the meantime, discuss why NASA hasn't used dog breeding philosophies and selective breeding to produce little tiny astronauts for Mars missions.

htismaqe · 12-12-2011, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

I want the guy to have fingers so he'll have a place to keep rings.

Awesome.

patteeu · 12-12-2011, 07:26 PM

Someone who spends enough time on message boards to know all the right answers.

KCBOSS1 · 12-12-2011, 07:26 PM

Billicheck Traits. Come and trade Cassel. Vermeil qualities.... Build rediculous offense and keep this defense.

**Gadzooks** · 12-12-2011, 07:27 PM

**Gadzooks** · 12-12-2011, 07:35 PM

I voted for all the bad stuff and it seems Chief fans agree with me.

12-12-2011, 07:40 PM

Did not even vote on 3-7 because I don't really care about any of that crap. I want a coach who has the basic set of skills covered period. I'm tired of stupid clock management errors. I'm tired of taking three points when we really need 7 if we have our sights set on winning. I want a coach who can adapt the scheme to showcase the available players' strengths. I want a coach who can make halftime adjustments to the gameplan. I want a guy who can motivate and have the team prepared to play every time they step on the field. I want a guy who doesn't smile, joke, and carry on after a stupid loss that was most likely his fault. I want a guy who will actually answer an honest question with an honest answer. Let the PR people handle PR. Let the coach talk.

edit: I also want a dexterous coach who can get out of the way of a sideline tackle.

FAX · 12-12-2011, 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

Did not even vote on 3-7 because I don't really care about any of that crap. I want a coach who has the basic set of skills covered period. I'm tired of stupid clock management errors. I'm tired of taking three points when we really need 7 if we have our sights set on winning. I want a coach who can adapt the scheme to showcase the available players' strengths. I want a coach who can make halftime adjustments to the gameplan. I want a guy who can motivate and have the team prepared to play every time they step on the field. I want a guy who doesn't smile, joke, and carry on after a stupid loss that was most likely his fault. I want a guy who will actually answer an honest question with an honest answer. Let the PR people handle PR. Let the coach talk.

I don't think you're going to get that while Pioli is GM, Mr. Phobia. I wish that weren't true, but I think they are trying to control every detail that is disseminated to the public ... including coach's comments.

FAX

Backwards Masking · 12-12-2011, 07:43 PM

It's all offense now. don't see many players on that side of the ball getting fined and suspended for playing. Saints, Packers, Patiots, 49ers, Texans (before the injuries).

I'll take offensice minded for sure.

Backwards Masking · 12-12-2011, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX

I don't think you're going to get that while Pioli is GM, Mr. Phobia. I wish that weren't true, but I think they are trying to control every detail that is disseminated to the public ... including coach's comments.

FAX

100 percent correct.

Nightfyre · 12-12-2011, 07:44 PM

The poll fails to capture what I want in a coach.
Criteria #1 Coach needs to have an offensive coordinator/QB coach who can identify elite QB talent at the collegiate level and develop it at the pro level.
Criteria #2 Coach needs to have an aggressive mentality with respect to both defense, offense and game management. I want to see blitzes. I want to see fakes on special teams. I want to see down-field passes.
Criteria #3 Coach needs to be a strong leader and motivator. By this I mean his players need to trust him but not necessarily like him. He needs to demand and get maximum production out of his players.
Criteria #4 Coach needs to be able to delegate to and trust his assistants and coordinators.

Edit: As part of #4, the Coach should be providing purpose, direction and motivation to his team. He needs to accomplish this through strong oversight and through his coordinators. His assistants and coordinators need to accomplish the gameplanning and enforcement of fundamentals. The Head Coach should sign off on these and develop an over-arcing plan for the other coaches to implement.
Much beyond this, I couldn't give a ****.

**Gadzooks** · 12-12-2011, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

It's all offense now. don't see many players on that side of the ball getting fined and suspended for playing. Saints, Packers, Patiots, 49ers, Texans (before the injuries).

I'll take offensice minded for sure.

I'll let word "offensice" slide this time because the "c" and "v' are so close on the keyboard.
Don't let it happen agaib!!!

chiefzilla1501 · 12-12-2011, 07:46 PM

Does he drive plow?

**Bugeater** · 12-12-2011, 07:50 PM

Man that is way too much crap to consider, I'll just go with posts #3 & #4.

Nightfyre · 12-13-2011, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

The poll fails to capture what I want in a coach.
Criteria #1 Coach needs to have an offensive coordinator/QB coach who can identify elite QB talent at the collegiate level and develop it at the pro level.
Criteria #2 Coach needs to have an aggressive mentality with respect to both defense, offense and game management. I want to see blitzes. I want to see fakes on special teams. I want to see down-field passes.
Criteria #3 Coach needs to be a strong leader and motivator. By this I mean his players need to trust him but not necessarily like him. He needs to demand and get maximum production out of his players.
Criteria #4 Coach needs to be able to delegate to and trust his assistants and coordinators.

Edit: As part of #4, the Coach should be providing purpose, direction and motivation to his team. He needs to accomplish this through strong oversight and through his coordinators. His assistants and coordinators need to accomplish the gameplanning and enforcement of fundamentals. The Head Coach should sign off on these and develop an over-arcing plan for the other coaches to implement.
Much beyond this, I couldn't give a ****.

I just realized a coach who probably fits my bill: Andy Reid.

Sofa King · 12-13-2011, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Backwards Masking

It's all offense now. don't see many players on that side of the ball getting fined and suspended for playing. Saints, Packers, Patiots, 49ers, Texans (before the injuries).

I'll take offensice minded for sure.

I think you are looking for the Hamas thread.

View Poll Results: Multi-Part Poll. Pick one from each set of choices. Then discuss.
**** Part 1. Player relationships.	5	7.46%
Coach is a "player's coach".	13	19.40%
Coach is an X’s and O’s coach and not a “player’s coach”	48	71.64%
**** Part 2. Personnel power	4	5.97%
Coach is also GM	6	8.96%
Coach and GM are separate	55	82.09%
**** Part 3. Playing history	4	5.97%
Coach played in the NFL as a star	7	10.45%
Coach played in the NFL as a fringe player	42	62.69%
Coach never played in the NFL	12	17.91%
**** Part 4. Super Bowl history	3	4.48%
Coach has a Super Bowl ring as a head coach	15	22.39%
Coach has a Super Bowl ring as a coordinator	31	46.27%
Coach has a Super Bowl ring as an assistant (non-coordinator)	19	28.36%
Coach has not been involved as a coach in a Super Bowl	11	16.42%
**** Part 5. Coaching pedigree	5	7.46%
Coach comes from the Belichick tree	6	8.96%
Coach comes from the Schottenheimer tree	7	10.45%
Coach comes from the Parcells tree	4	5.97%
Coach comes from the Walsh tree	3	4.48%
Coach comes from the Jimmy Johnson tree	3	4.48%
Coach comes from the tree of some other Super Bowl winning coach in the past decade	17	25.37%
Coach does not come from any of the dynasty trees.	31	46.27%
**** Part 6. NFL Coaching experience	4	5.97%
Coach has been a previous NFL head coach	20	29.85%
Coach has been an NFL coordinator, but not head coach	39	58.21%
Coach has been a college head coach, but no NFL experience	10	14.93%
Coach has been a college coordinator, but no NFL or head coach experience	2	2.99%
**** Part 7. Offense vs. Defense	4	5.97%
Coach came up as an offensive guy	39	58.21%
Coach came up as a defensive guy	21	31.34%
**** Part 8. Sustainability vs. Turnaround	4	5.97%
Coach has a stronger lifetime W-L record	40	59.70%
Coach has a less strong W-L record, but has a record of turning around bad teams	19	28.36%
**** Part 9. Skills vs. Systems	4	5.97%
Coach is known for development of fundamental skills in players more than innovative systems	37	55.22%
Coach is known for developing innovative systems over developing fundamental skills	22	32.84%
**** Part 10. Best player available vs. Cohesive system	5	7.46%
Coach drafts/acquires best available players even if they’re not a fit for his current system.	35	52.24%
Coach drafts/acquires players who best fit a system that he puts into place even if they’re not the best raw players	24	35.82%
**** Part 11. Personality	4	5.97%
Coach is fiery, rough, and demonstrative	22	32.84%
Coach is cool, sophisticated, and cerebral	37	55.22%
**** Part 12. Risk-Taking	4	5.97%
Coach is, if anything, too bold for his own good.	53	79.10%
Coach is, if anything, too conservative for his own good.	2	2.99%
**** Part 13. Coach timeline	4	5.97%
Coach should have 1-2 years to turn this baby around	21	31.34%
Coach should have 3-4 years to turn this baby around	37	55.22%
I plan to write to NASA about that whole tiny astronaut thing.	8	11.94%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 67. You may not vote on this poll

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12-12-2011, 07:35 PM	#20
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12-12-2011, 07:40 PM	#21
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	Did not even vote on 3-7 because I don't really care about any of that crap. I want a coach who has the basic set of skills covered period. I'm tired of stupid clock management errors. I'm tired of taking three points when we really need 7 if we have our sights set on winning. I want a coach who can adapt the scheme to showcase the available players' strengths. I want a coach who can make halftime adjustments to the gameplan. I want a guy who can motivate and have the team prepared to play every time they step on the field. I want a guy who doesn't smile, joke, and carry on after a stupid loss that was most likely his fault. I want a guy who will actually answer an honest question with an honest answer. Let the PR people handle PR. Let the coach talk. edit: I also want a dexterous coach who can get out of the way of a sideline tackle.
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12-12-2011, 07:43 PM	#23
Backwards Masking Bustle in your hedgerow? Join Date: May 2011 Location: NOT Missouri Casino cash: $10004900	It's all offense now. don't see many players on that side of the ball getting fined and suspended for playing. Saints, Packers, Patiots, 49ers, Texans (before the injuries). I'll take offensice minded for sure.
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12-12-2011, 07:44 PM	#25
Nightfyre MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Helena, MT Casino cash: $1298849	The poll fails to capture what I want in a coach. Criteria #1 Coach needs to have an offensive coordinator/QB coach who can identify elite QB talent at the collegiate level and develop it at the pro level. Criteria #2 Coach needs to have an aggressive mentality with respect to both defense, offense and game management. I want to see blitzes. I want to see fakes on special teams. I want to see down-field passes. Criteria #3 Coach needs to be a strong leader and motivator. By this I mean his players need to trust him but not necessarily like him. He needs to demand and get maximum production out of his players. Criteria #4 Coach needs to be able to delegate to and trust his assistants and coordinators. Edit: As part of #4, the Coach should be providing purpose, direction and motivation to his team. He needs to accomplish this through strong oversight and through his coordinators. His assistants and coordinators need to accomplish the gameplanning and enforcement of fundamentals. The Head Coach should sign off on these and develop an over-arcing plan for the other coaches to implement. Much beyond this, I couldn't give a ****.
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12-12-2011, 07:46 PM	#27
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1735503	Does he drive plow?
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12-12-2011, 07:50 PM	#28
Bugeater The Maintenance Guy Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Renovated Bugeater Estate Casino cash: $3992680	Man that is way too much crap to consider, I'll just go with posts #3 & #4.
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