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Old 02-28-2012, 01:49 PM  
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Sac's 2012 Post Combine Mock Draft

2012 Post Combine Mock Draft

1. Luke Kuechly, ILB; Boston College: 6’3”, 242 lbs.
- I’ve had Kuechly mocked here before because it represents the best player available situation for the Chiefs. Kuechly is one of, if not the, most instinctive linebacker in recent memory and averaged nearly 16 tackles a game (15.9) for Boston College this past season. During the Combine, he showed top flight athleticism and speed and was a top performer in nearly every single drill. His combine numbers were better than Pat Willis. He’s an elite level guy for the MLB position.



2. Kelechi Osemele, OT; Iowa State: 6’6”, 333 lbs.
- Osemele measured in at the Combine at a hair under 6’6”, tipped the scales at 333 lbs. and had the longest arms of any offensive tackle in Indianapolis. He ran fluidly in the drills for a guy his size and also showed power in benching 32 reps. There is power in both the top and bottom halves of his body and really enjoys drive blocking opponents into the ground. He’s also a three time academic Honor Roll student as well as a 2011 First Team All-Big 12 player.



3. Robert Turbin, RB; Utah State: 5'10", 222 lbs.
- Turbin showed up at the Combine looking like a Thomas Jones clone (maybe more buff) with huge arms, a thick neck and a barrel of a chest. He also showed exceptional speed for a 5’ 10”, 222 lbs., running a 4.44 in one of his 40’s. He was also a top performer in the majority of the drills. To back that up, he also averaged 6.1 ypc, 126 ypg, with 19 touchdowns on the ground. He’s shown himself to be a very good receiver as well, averaging 10.1 ypc and four TD's in 2011. They guy is a top flight all-purpose back.



4. Ryan Lindley, QB; San Diego State: 6’4”, 229 lbs.
- Lindley has two things that the NFL loves: prototype size and an absolute cannon for an arm. He’s also undervalued in terms of athleticism. He put up decent combine numbers, but it’s the arm which is going to get him drafted around the late third/early fourth. He struggled with inconsistency in his passing in college due to his reliance on his arm, but if Zorn is as good as he’s reputed to be with QB’s, Lindley could turn into something special.



5. David Molk, C; Michigan: 6’1”, 298 lbs.
- The reigning Rimington Award winner (top college center) and First Team All-Big 10 (beating out Wisconsin’s Pete Konz) possesses excellent strength and leverage and put up an incredible 41 reps on the bench at the Combine.



6. Drake Dunsmore, TE; Northwestern: 6’2”, 241 lbs.
- Dunsmore had a terrific combine, being a top performer in all the agility and speed drills. He averaged 11.6 ypc for the Wildcats and had six TD’s in 2011. A versatile end with good hands and an underrated blocker. First team All-Big 10.



7. Jeron McMillian, S; Maine: 5’11”, 203 lbs.
- Think of Jovan Belcher as a safety, regardless of the fact that both went to Maine. McMillan is a hard-nosed, instinctive football player that is fundamentally sound. Is very good blitzing the quarterback and is a fierce run stuffer. Ran a solid 4.56 40 at the combine along with a very good 36.5” vertical.


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Old 02-28-2012, 06:37 PM   #16
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Just for shits and giggles, if I had to draft depending on Wes Bunting's big board (no reaching above the pick).

11. OT Cordy Glenn, Georgia (his 11th rated prospect)
44. NT Dontari Poe, Memphis (45th)
75. WR Alshon Jeffery, South Carolina (95th)
107. RB Isaiah Pead, Cincinnati (112th)

138. OG Senio Kelemete, Washington (139th)
161. QB Kirk Cousins, Michigan State (162nd)
192. TE Michael Egnew, Missouri (192nd)
(NE pick) 223. ILB Tank Carder, Texas Christian (226th)

Fixed it for ya.

Of course, that shit isn't going to happen because I expect all 5 of those bolded players to go well before those picks.

Pretty offensive heavy. I'd like to change that 5th rounder but there isn't shit on his board to really swap it with. I'd like to put a safety there but he's is really high on safeties and has a lot of them going earlier than what most people have.

EDIT: He has Sean Cattouse going undrafted so that would be someone I'd sign.

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Old 02-28-2012, 06:48 PM   #17
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I look at your mock and think I'd be fine giving the entire draft up for RGIII.
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Old 02-28-2012, 06:57 PM   #18
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:17 PM   #19
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I'll take your word for it on McMillian

As for the QB, i just wonder if he's any better a prospect than Stanzi? I also think Stanzi has some promise down the road, so we have our late round flyer. Unless it is someone like Mallet falling to the second, I consider rounds 2-4 a waste for QBs.

But, having said that, I'm never going to complain about this franchise drafting a QB...I'll take whatever crumbs they'll give.
He's probably a worse prospect than Stanzi, other than the arm. Stanzi won a lot and did get better from year to year in his career. By his senior year, he was pretty solid as a QB and he did win his bowl games.

I'd say beyond the first two, the only other guy who is probably better than Stanzi in this draft is Weeden.

Personally, if they are going to pick a guy at QB in the later rounds, I'd really like it to be Kellen Moore, just for the sole reason that the guy lives and breathes football and is driven to win, which he did better than anyone whose ever played the position in college. Sure, he's 6' and slow, but he throws a beautiful pass and really sees the field.

That being said, Lindley does have a laser rocket arm.

Though, like I mentioned earlier, I'd like to see the Chiefs keep bringing them in until someone sticks.
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Old 02-28-2012, 10:48 PM   #20
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Another problem with drafing Lindley is what do you do with Stanzi? You don't keep two QB's that young on the roster, do you?
I do. What, do you want an old guy who is not the future of this team to waste space alongside Cassel? **** that, the future is now. This team is good enough to handle inconsistent play from a young QB. It's terrible play from a 30yr. old QB we have no time for.
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The only picks I don't like are Osemele and Lindley.

Lindley for reasons stated. Osemele b/c his tendency to grab and his senior bowl showing.

I actually really like Kuechly. Would prefer to trade down for him though. Actually, not matter who we pick, I'd rather we traded down to do it. It's that type of draft for us. A lot like '09. The only exception would be if we traded up for RG3...
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Old 02-29-2012, 05:07 PM   #22
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I like this mock, with the exception of the QB (although I'm sure we'll take a QB around there, for all intents and purposes). This is, provided, we solve our NT situation in FA.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:41 PM   #23
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Molk in the 5th round? The 2nd (possibly 1st) best center in the draft is going in the 5th round? even if you REALLY don't like him, you can't possibly think he falls out of the top 3 as far as centers this year.

No way he makes it past the 4th round... unless miraculously no one needs centers this year.
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Old 02-29-2012, 08:53 PM   #24
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Molk in the 5th round? The 2nd (possibly 1st) best center in the draft is going in the 5th round? even if you REALLY don't like him, you can't possibly think he falls out of the top 3 as far as centers this year.

No way he makes it past the 4th round... unless miraculously no one needs centers this year.
Michigan fan? Highest I've seen Molk ranked among centers is 3rd behind Konz, and Jones. Most have Brewster ahead of him and some have Blake ahead of him. 5th round might be a bit of a stretch but its not as ridiculous as you are trying to make it sound.

There were 6 centers drafted in '11 (including Hudson). 3 before the 3rd and then 3 in the 6th.

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Michigan fan? Highest I've seen Molk ranked among centers is 3rd behind Konz, and Jones. Most have Brewster ahead of him and some have Blake ahead of him. 5th round might be a bit of a stretch but its not as ridiculous as you are trying to make it sound.

There were 6 centers drafted in '11 (including Hudson). 3 before the 3rd and then 3 in the 6th.
Yep I am a U-M fan.. but the guy won the Remington award for BEST center in the nation last year. He is the STRONGEST o-lineman in the draft this year and he has fantastic technique... The rankings that have him below #2 are idiotic.. they are ALL based on an assumption that he is a "finesse" guy and doesn't have the strength required because of his size. He just proved that wrong at the combine, so expect the rankings to start to reflect that. Go back and read all the analysis and notice that they all focus on him not being strong enough... which was entirely based on looking at his frame and not on his tape.

I could see him slipping to the 4th, maybe... and he'd be a steal there.

(putting Brewster above Molk is an absolute joke)
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Old 02-29-2012, 09:46 PM   #26
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Yep I am a U-M fan.. but the guy won the Remington award for BEST center in the nation last year. He is the STRONGEST o-lineman in the draft this year and he has fantastic technique... The rankings that have him below #2 are idiotic.. they are ALL based on an assumption that he is a "finesse" guy and doesn't have the strength required because of his size. He just proved that wrong at the combine, so expect the rankings to start to reflect that. Go back and read all the analysis and notice that they all focus on him not being strong enough... which was entirely based on looking at his frame and not on his tape.

I could see him slipping to the 4th, maybe... and he'd be a steal there.

(putting Brewster above Molk is an absolute joke)
Actually the negative reports on him are more to do with his lower body strength...

"Weaknesses: Undersized with limited growth potential ? lacks elite measureables for the next level. Doesn?t have a stout anchor and can be driven backwards off the snap ? often overwhelmed at the point of attack because of his limited base strength. Needs to sustain blocks longer and can be tossed aside by defenders. Lacks the brute strength to redirect rushers and will never be a mauler in the run game ? needs to do a better job blocking moving targets and squaring up in space. Won?t fit in every NFL offense and won?t be on some team?s draft boards. Has suffered several injuries over his career, including missing most of his sophomore season with foot and knee injuries ? didn?t start in the 2012 Sugar Bowl because of a foot injury in pregame warm ups."

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"Now, lacks the power to win as an in-line guy. Keeps his base down, but doesn't have the lower body power to create a push inside. However, does do a nice job chipping at the line, re-directing and reaching secondary targets. Displays great awareness in the run game as well and routinely carries out assignments.

His tightness in the hips shows up more so in pass protection where he has the initial first step and foot quickness to reach defenders off his frame, but gets upright, isn't real long armed and struggles to gain leverage and anchor on contact. Can routinely be overwhelmed vs. the bull rush inside and needs to play in tandem. Possesses some natural shuffle and slide ability in space, extends his arms well off the snap, keeps his base under him and can mirror initially. Will struggle with leverage because of arm length and is inconsistent with hand placement hurting his ability to stick to his man. I can't see him holding up routinely inside one-one-one in the pass game vs. NFL caliber defensive tackles."
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Updated yesterday, Molk #6: http://walterfootball.com/draft2012C.php

Updated today, Molk #6: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/p...ankings/2012/C
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Actually the negative reports on him are more to do with his lower body strength...

"Weaknesses: Undersized with limited growth potential ? lacks elite measureables for the next level. Doesn?t have a stout anchor and can be driven backwards off the snap ? often overwhelmed at the point of attack because of his limited base strength. Needs to sustain blocks longer and can be tossed aside by defenders. Lacks the brute strength to redirect rushers and will never be a mauler in the run game ? needs to do a better job blocking moving targets and squaring up in space. Won?t fit in every NFL offense and won?t be on some team?s draft boards. Has suffered several injuries over his career, including missing most of his sophomore season with foot and knee injuries ? didn?t start in the 2012 Sugar Bowl because of a foot injury in pregame warm ups."

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"Now, lacks the power to win as an in-line guy. Keeps his base down, but doesn't have the lower body power to create a push inside. However, does do a nice job chipping at the line, re-directing and reaching secondary targets. Displays great awareness in the run game as well and routinely carries out assignments.

His tightness in the hips shows up more so in pass protection where he has the initial first step and foot quickness to reach defenders off his frame, but gets upright, isn't real long armed and struggles to gain leverage and anchor on contact. Can routinely be overwhelmed vs. the bull rush inside and needs to play in tandem. Possesses some natural shuffle and slide ability in space, extends his arms well off the snap, keeps his base under him and can mirror initially. Will struggle with leverage because of arm length and is inconsistent with hand placement hurting his ability to stick to his man. I can't see him holding up routinely inside one-one-one in the pass game vs. NFL caliber defensive tackles."
The only VALID statements in there had to do with injuries.. otherwise there is no CHANCE that either of those people watched enough tape to have a clue what they are talking about. His strength (both upper and lower) has never been an issue except when playing injured. When healthy the guy absolutely brutalized people. I love the idiot statement about him being undersized and limited in his growth potential... then he goes out and puts back on a ton of muscle after surgery. I'm telling you, these guys are pulling this shit out of their asses. Wait until it gets closer to the draft and people have had time to rewrite and rethink. If he falls past the 3rd round, some team is getting a steal.
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Ok, perfect example... one of those lists the following statement
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WTF? How is this possible.. the combine is OVER.. we have REAL measurements to go by... this is obviously a cut/paste of a past review, or the guy was too lazy to look up his combine results??? They actual list the correct numbers that he was measured at... so how is he not actually those numbers? He is 6'1 298lbs... plenty big enough. Which as I mentioned is 20 lbs heavier then he was after having surgery... he gained all of that as muscle and can actually gain a little more if needed.
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I look at your mock and think I'd be fine giving the entire draft up for RGIII.
No shit.

Kuechly is going to be a fine player, for the Eagles. He doesn't have the size, nor do I think he has the mentality to be a thumper that Romeo Crennel wants. He'd fill the role that Derrick Johnson currently fills, very well.

Kelechi Osemele is going to be a really good guard. I don't see the tackle potential.

Robert Turbin in the 3rd? No, this is at least a good full round too early. He's had injury problems and can't pass block. 5th round would be more ideal.

Ryan Lindley lacks consistency and accuracy. Sweet lets burn another roster spot and draft pick for another project QB.

David Molk? Meh. He'd have to have the ability to play at all positions within the interior line.

Drake Dunsmore will likely go higher than the 6th.

7. Jeron McMillian, S; Maine: 5’11”, 203 lbs. I am cool with this.
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