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Old 10-30-2012, 11:36 AM  
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I'm late but on board with cleaning house
i've been hesitant because if you clean house you almost always have to wait again for another 2/3 years.

Romeo is just terrible, Daboll sucks too

If we have to change Head coaches again then Pioli has to go too.

it's a shame, but necessary

I still think Pioli is a quality player personal guy

Have no idea if anyone worth a shit is out there.

How good would we be if we had gotten Jim Harbaugh?

carry on with all your crazy conspiracy shit
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:48 AM   #16
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Pioli is possibly one of the worst GM's in NFL history.
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:49 AM   #17
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:49 AM   #18
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How can you say he's still a quality personnel guy? This roster sucks. He didn't pay Carr, he signed a garbage corner in Routt, Hudson looked like shit, Baldwin is invisible, Poe and Jackson are awful first round picks, there's no depth on the O-line or in the secondary.

When he doesn't have Belichick to hold his hand, he's one of the worst talent evaluators in the NFL.
Hali is good...oh wait. Well, Flowers is good...oh wait. Jamaal Charles is good...oh wait...

Uhm...McCluster scored a garbage time TD last week!
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:49 AM   #19
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How can you say he's still a quality personnel guy? This roster sucks. He didn't pay Carr, he signed a garbage corner in Routt, Hudson looked like shit, Baldwin is invisible, Poe and Jackson are awful first round picks, there's no depth on the O-line or in the secondary.

When he doesn't have Belichick to hold his hand, he's one of the worst talent evaluators in the NFL.
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:50 AM   #20
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I said this last night, but I really believe that Cowher will be the next HC. He'll have full control of football decisions and he'll bring someone to help run the football side.

One name I did hear yesterday was Polian with Cowher. Cowher and him apparently are close.

Not a fan of Polian though.
I don't care for Polian whatsoever.

With all of the coaching vacancies in 2013 (San Diego, Carolina, Cleveland, etc.), I'd be shocked that Cowher, if he decides to return, would choose Kansas City.

That seems like a very long shot to me.
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:50 AM   #21
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i've been hesitant because if you clean house you almost always have to wait again for another 2/3 years.

Romeo is just terrible, Daboll sucks too

If we have to change Head coaches again then Pioli has to go too.

it's a shame, but necessary

I still think Pioli is a quality player personal guy

Have no idea if anyone worth a shit is out there.

How good would we be if we had gotten Jim Harbaugh?

carry on with all your crazy conspiracy shit
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Old 10-30-2012, 11:56 AM   #22
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Pioli is possibly one of the worst GM's in NFL history.
I'm shocked at how bad he's been.

I figured if he failed, it would be the way Carl failed -- field competitive teams that couldn't get over the hump. You think that even if Belichick and Brady were the keys to SB titles, Pioli in his time at NE at least would've figured out how to field a decent team. Hell, Dimitroff did.

But Pioli has been exposed as one of the biggest frauds in recent NFL history.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:06 PM   #23
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I'm shocked at how bad he's been.

I figured if he failed, it would be the way Carl failed -- field competitive teams that couldn't get over the hump. You think that even if Belichick and Brady were the keys to SB titles, Pioli in his time at NE at least would've figured out how to field a decent team. Hell, Dimitroff did.

But Pioli has been exposed as one of the biggest frauds in recent NFL history.
I can't even comprehend this level of fail.

Even Houston Astro fans are astounded by this level of failure.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:09 PM   #24
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Pioli is the absolute worst.

Think about the fact he's lost 29 of his last 41 games at Arrowhead. The Raiders have won 2 games at Arrowhead in the last 10 months. The Chiefs have won zero.

It's his 2nd 1-6 start in 4 years.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:10 PM   #25
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What conspiracy?

Pioli and his band of goons flat out suck.

It's painfully obvious, no conspiracy needed.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:15 PM   #26
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It's unfortunate, but when you back off and look at this situation coolly and objectively (which is what I hope Clark is doing) then base your analysis on the totality of Pioli's performance in Kansas city, you are forced to arrive at the conclusion that he is functionally incompetent.

I've know a few people who have risen to the very top in their respective fields who were functionally incompetent - two in the music industry and one in financial planning. It happens. It starts by being in the right place at the right time. It's a combination of pure, blind luck and associating with people who are highly effective. Then, you capitalize on the organization's accomplishments by positioning yourself as a principal factor in that success. Soon, your name becomes synonymous with achievements that were, in actual fact, the work of others.

The fascinating part is that each of the men I've known who found themselves in that situation did not know the difference. They actually believed that they were responsible (in large measure, at least) for their success. How they convince themselves of it, I do not know.

Pioli is simply the product of a system. He was part gofer and part media figurehead. And the public persona and reputation he cultivated over the years did not reflect his true abilities.

Worst of all, he honestly believed that he could do the job here ... and probably still does. And that, my friends, is dangerous. He will say the things he's learned to say in public, and they'll sound reasonable. Meanwhile, privately he doesn't understand why things aren't working. He's probably imagining that time alone will correct the problems. But he will lack the capacity to see himself as the issue and, in his mind, any fault or failure will have an external cause. It's why we've spun our wheels as we've continually dug the hole deeper and deeper and it's why Clark must fire him as quickly as possible. There is a form of madness in Pioli for which the only cure is failure.

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Old 10-30-2012, 12:21 PM   #27
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Well praise Jesus, everyone.

We can finally get started with this thing, Laz is on board.

Halle-****ing-lujah.

P.S. Laz is still a goddamn moron.
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:37 PM   #28
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what makes everything so clear is to just look at other 'rebuilding' teams and the difference a single good decision can make...

Harbaugh v haley/crennel

basically any QB drafted in the first round v Cassel

too many draft picks to list

pioli doesn't deserve the right to make any more important decisions for this franchise...he has disqualified himself
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Old 10-30-2012, 12:38 PM   #29
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