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Old 11-30-2012, 12:02 AM   #1
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With three top ten draft picks on the defensive line, these one who sucks the peniss should be killing it.

Pioli is a douche.
If Marty was really consulting w/ Clark, that would be his first strike against Pioli IMO.

As well as ripping the philosophy of the 2-gap a new one
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:30 PM   #2
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If we had a better offense, it would likely just expose the defense more because teams would play more aggressive on offense against us.
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:59 PM   #3
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It just doesn't seem to attack, at all. Which makes sense as the DE's don't diagnose very well.


When you watch the Steelers, Ravens 9ers etc, they are constatnly in the backfield and getting hats to the ball.


We don't
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:08 AM   #4
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It just doesn't seem to attack, at all. Which makes sense as the DE's don't diagnose very well.


When you watch the Steelers, Ravens 9ers etc, they are constatnly in the backfield and getting hats to the ball.


We don't
The Ravens run a modified version of the 34 called the 46. We actually should be throwing something like that out every once and a while with Powe and Poe.

****ing Crennel so so utterly predictable.

I mean, seriously, the opposing teams have just got to laugh when they watch film and then actually play us.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:16 AM   #5
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The Ravens run a modified version of the 34 called the 46. We actually should be throwing something like that out every once and a while with Powe and Poe.

****ing Crennel so so utterly predictable.

I mean, seriously, the opposing teams have just got to laugh when they watch film and then actually play us.
The Ravens actually utilize a large quantity of over/under/over ed looks in their base 3-4 front.

The 3-4 can be defined as a front or personnel group. The Ravens use it as both and alter it.


Here's a link that you and others might enjoy

http://www.scribd.com/doc/2941718/20...ens-34-Defense
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I know what the 2 gap is, I just don't see the benefits really.
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In your opinions, do we have the personal to become a good defense very fast?
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In your opinions, do we have the personal to become a good defense very fast?
With six first round picks on that side of the ball you better hope to god that this should be a ****ing insane defense.

There is a lack of discipline from what I can tell.

Berry should be a lot better than what is showing up on Sundays. Same with Jackson.

It's ****ing embarrassing.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:14 AM   #10
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In your opinions, do we have the personal to become a good defense very fast?
I think for us to be a top 10 D regardless of who is our QB next year is reliant on

1: Switching to a 1-gap/Fire-zone 3-4
2. Finding at least 1 above average 3-tech who can provide a pass rush from our base front
3. Getting a legit #2 CB
4. Getting a legit ILB who can cover, enabling Berry to not play in the box on subs
5. Getting another quality OLB who can rush the passer


While I'd like to see 2 DEs added, 2 ILBS who can cover, and 2 tall, press corners added, I acknowledge that this team IMO wouldn't need all of that to be a top 10 D.
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Jackson should not be better.

He's an assclown and always was apart from a handful of games last year.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:17 AM   #12
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Jackson should not be better.

He's an assclown and always was apart from a handful of games last year.
I don't know.

I think it has a lot to do with the system and coaching.

Much like the offensive side of the ball, where, until we get a real QB, you have no idea what these guys are truly capable of, the defense seems to be completely hamstringed by the system.

I refuse to believe that Jackson and Dorsey are that utterly horrible versus the dog shit system we run.
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I don't know.

I think it has a lot to do with the system and coaching.

Much like the offensive side of the ball, where, until we get a real QB, you have no idea what these guys are truly capable of, the defense seems to be completely hamstringed by the system.

I refuse to believe that Jackson and Dorsey are that utterly horrible versus the dog shit system we run.
Both of them are one dimensional players.

Jackson is a one dimensional player who sucks at his dimension.

It's ****ing comical that the Star wrote this.
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I don't know.

I think it has a lot to do with the system and coaching.

Much like the offensive side of the ball, where, until we get a real QB, you have no idea what these guys are truly capable of, the defense seems to be completely hamstringed by the system.

I refuse to believe that Jackson and Dorsey are that utterly horrible versus the dog shit system we run.
Normally I'd give both the benefit of the doubt with the dysfunctional system they've grown up in.

However, neither (apart from Jackson last week) has shown any ability from the 3-tech in sub packages to provide a pass rush and neither have provided a pass rush from base fronts.

To me, they are both busts, considering their draft positions, salaries, and production. That isn't to say it couldn't have been different under different circumstances.
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Still not sure why, if he's cut, adding McClain wouldn't be a good option?


I think the defense, even without those things, could be fine. They aren't disciplined. At all.

There are potential playmakers in Berry, DJ, Houston, Hali, and I'd even say Poe potentially up front.

Obviously, the defense isn't going to have probowlers everywhere. But it needs to get overall more physical and disciplined.
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