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Old 08-17-2013, 11:33 AM   #1
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I didn't agree with this call at all, progress was over and Dex was down.
Definitely a fumble.
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Old 08-17-2013, 12:13 PM   #2
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This used to be a clear cut rule. No subjective bullshit involved. Now it seems like yet another way for the refs to influence the outcome of a game. Discuss.
It's amazing how many people spend so much time watching football yet have no idea what the **** they're watching.
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Old 08-17-2013, 03:32 PM   #3
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It's amazing how many people spend so much time watching football yet have no idea what the **** they're watching.
Oh, and **** you btw.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:21 PM   #4
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You're free to have the opinion that it is not a fumble, but you're still wrong.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:27 PM   #5
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You're free to have the opinion that it is not a fumble, but you're still wrong.
Not really.

The rule states that if a player falls to the ground and makes no effort to advance the ball the play is dead.

McCluster fell to the ground and made no effort to advance the ball. Play dead.

It's either an incomplete pass or a catch and down by virtue of that rule.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:42 PM   #6
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Not really.

The rule states that if a player falls to the ground and makes no effort to advance the ball the play is dead.

McCluster fell to the ground and made no effort to advance the ball. Play dead.

It's either an incomplete pass or a catch and down by virtue of that rule.
Just admit you are wrong and move on.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:43 PM   #7
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Just admit you are wrong and move on.
Why would I admit I'm wrong when the rulebook agrees with me? Or are we going to act like the officials are right 100% of the time and know the rulebook from front to back?
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:47 PM   #8
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Why would I admit I'm wrong when the rulebook agrees with me? Or are we going to act like the officials are right 100% of the time and know the rulebook from front to back?
Falling to the ground like Dex does in that video is not 'giving up'.

Kneeling or Sliding feet first is.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:47 PM   #9
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Not really.

The rule states that if a player falls to the ground and makes no effort to advance the ball the play is dead.

McCluster fell to the ground and made no effort to advance the ball. Play dead.

It's either an incomplete pass or a catch and down by virtue of that rule.
No. it's either an incomplete pass or a fumbled lateral. He did not maintain control through the entire act of catching the ball. if it was thrown backwards, that makes it a live ball. But,giving himself up is not what happened.
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:48 PM   #10
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No. it's either an incomplete pass or a fumbled lateral. He did not maintain control through the entire act of catching the ball. if it was thrown backwards, that makes it a live ball. But,giving himself up is not what happened.
A fumbled lateral?

WTF?

Go back to lurking.
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:00 PM   #11
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A fumbled lateral?

WTF?

Go back to lurking.
You do realize that a backwards pass is a lateral, right?
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Old 08-17-2013, 01:55 PM   #12
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:19 PM   #13
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There's a nifty extension for reddit called the Reddit Enhancement Suite that allows you to do a variety of nifty things. One of those things is to "tag" other users with little descriptions to help you remember who they are, what they're like, etc.

I kind of wish we had it here so that in times like this I could remember to just go "aww...look at the little special kid" and move on rather than trying to help him understand the rules.
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Old 08-17-2013, 02:25 PM   #14
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There's a nifty extension for reddit called the Reddit Enhancement Suite that allows you to do a variety of nifty things. One of those things is to "tag" other users with little descriptions to help you remember who they are, what they're like, etc.

I kind of wish we had it here so that in times like this I could remember to just go "aww...look at the little special kid" and move on rather than trying to help him understand the rules.
That would be awesome.

Because it's pretty ****ing easy to comprehend that rule.

"Falling to the ground with no effort to advance the ball."

McCluster caught the ball and fell to the ground without making a "football move" to advance the ball.

It's either an incomplete pass or a catch and down by that rule. There's no two ways about it besides a bunch of challenged readers trying to invent their own definition of the rule.

But I'm done talking about a simple definition now. It was a year ago on a 2-14 team.
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It's either an incomplete pass or a catch and down by that rule. There's no two ways about it besides a bunch of challenged readers trying to invent their own definition of the rule.
Obtuse

The ball came out and he was not touched. Fumble.

Keep digging that hole...
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