Haha or Marqise? - Page 2

**BossChief** · 12-09-2013, 01:55 PM

I am a huge fan of these guys and think both have big time potential at the next level to be difference makers.

If it weren't for the injury and Barkley leaving, Lee would be a top 5 pick quality player. Big time playmaker at a position of desperate need. We need a wideout that Alex can lean on when defenses are bracketing Bowe. Lee would be a perfect fit IMO. He plays bigger than his measured size, has great hands, runs routes effectively and is unquestioned playmaker.

Haha Clinton-Dix is a guy that would fit perfectly with our defense. He has been in a 3-4 playing free safety in his time in college and has showed considerable upside. He has good speed and his ball skills make him stand out. He plays the deep ball consistently and is experienced in big games doing so. He could step in and help us limit teams to the underneath stuff, or to pay for trying to test our defense deep.

I think either guy would be a near perfect fit and I expect one of them to be available where we pick. Both positions are deep in this class, so that really shouldn't be a huge factor in the decision.

If both are available, which guy do you take?

Dayze · 12-23-2013, 07:24 AM

I haven't seen enough of Lee to even have an opinion on him.

However, as the resident Bama fan, I can speak a bit on Ha Ha.

As the OP mentioned, he's been playing in a very similar base scheme for a two years. He's smart, and a good tackler. He's not a world beater by any means (at least up to this point). But intelligance and tackling make him valuable because you can confidently line him up in multiple sets and not be scared in doing so.

Overall a very very solid player that would be more than a worthy pick for any team. especially the Chiefs with their situtation with Lewis.

McBeard · 01-03-2014, 07:07 AM

Ha Ha is a suspect tackler. He's an ankle biter. I think we will hear a lot more about this leading up to the draft. He is a fantastic play maker but he needs to improve his tackling.

I loved Lee coming into the season but he dropped a bunch of balls. I'd be OK with taking him but I'd prefer Jordan Mathews or Odell Beckham. Those guys run perfect routes and catch everything. They are more in line with what we need.

I'd take Lee if I had to choose between the two.

KevB · 01-06-2014, 12:32 AM

I'm going to be banging the drum for Marqise Lee. Dude was a top 5 pick if he came out last year and didn't bust at the combine. Injuries impacted his performance this season, which benefits us picking at 23. He's the playmaker at WR we've been looking for, and he might actually fall to us.

BryanBusby · 01-06-2014, 12:33 AM

I think Marqise Lee starts to rise again and exits the realm of possibility for KC.

If he somehow lasts to 23, I don't see how you could pass.

McBeard · 01-06-2014, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I think Marqise Lee starts to rise again and exits the realm of possibility for KC.

If he somehow lasts to 23, I don't see how you could pass.

I agree, he's not going to fall to us.

KevB · 01-06-2014, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

I think Marqise Lee starts to rise again and exits the realm of possibility for KC.

If he somehow lasts to 23, I don't see how you could pass.

That very well could be. Keenan Allen was also a sure fire first round pick this time last year, and look what happened to him.

There are several QB's that could creep into the top 20 this season --- if that happens, good players like Lee fall down the board.

**The Franchise** · 01-06-2014, 11:58 AM

Neither one will be there for our pick. I don't see Haha getting past St. Louis/Green Bay and I don't see Lee making it past Baltimore.

BryanBusby · 01-06-2014, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

That very well could be. Keenan Allen was also a sure fire first round pick this time last year, and look what happened to him.

There are several QB's that could creep into the top 20 this season --- if that happens, good players like Lee fall down the board.

Well Keenan Allen ran like a 4.70. Marqise Lee is not going to be doing that.

Jakemall · 01-06-2014, 04:03 PM

You take which ever one is there at 23 and laugh your head off with manical happiness. Ha Ha would probably have the bigger impact right now. You can probably get a solid WR or TE in the 3rd or 4th rounds...

Dion Bailey might be there in the 3rd too..but I don't know if he'll be there deep enough for the Chiefs.

Sorter · 01-06-2014, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Well Keenan Allen ran like a 4.70. Marqise Lee is not going to be doing that.

Someone needs to just ensure Lee pulls his hamstring before the combine.

It's for a good cause.

Jakemall · 01-06-2014, 04:25 PM

**alpha_omega** · 01-06-2014, 04:32 PM

I'll take whichever one is there...but probably neither will be.

For the record, i love that name...Ha Ha.

As an aside...Gameday was at Tuscaloosa at some point this year and someone was holding up a sign saying.... "Monica Lewinsky loves Clinton Dix, Ha Ha!"...that still makes me laugh.

LiL stumppy · 01-07-2014, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

This team needs a legit WR more than it needs a FS at this time.

Absolutely false.

tredadda · 01-07-2014, 02:19 AM

What position is easier to replace this year in FA? To me it is WR so I would go with Ha Ha and then upgrade WR in free agency.

**Mav** · 01-07-2014, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter

Someone needs to just ensure Lee pulls his hamstring before the combine.

It's for a good cause.

Picture yourself saying this 4 months ago. Now try not to laugh. Oh and bring back Boxxy

12-09-2013, 01:55 PM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1765912	Haha or Marqise? I am a huge fan of these guys and think both have big time potential at the next level to be difference makers. If it weren't for the injury and Barkley leaving, Lee would be a top 5 pick quality player. Big time playmaker at a position of desperate need. We need a wideout that Alex can lean on when defenses are bracketing Bowe. Lee would be a perfect fit IMO. He plays bigger than his measured size, has great hands, runs routes effectively and is unquestioned playmaker. Haha Clinton-Dix is a guy that would fit perfectly with our defense. He has been in a 3-4 playing free safety in his time in college and has showed considerable upside. He has good speed and his ball skills make him stand out. He plays the deep ball consistently and is experienced in big games doing so. He could step in and help us limit teams to the underneath stuff, or to pay for trying to test our defense deep. I think either guy would be a near perfect fit and I expect one of them to be available where we pick. Both positions are deep in this class, so that really shouldn't be a huge factor in the decision. If both are available, which guy do you take?
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12-23-2013, 07:24 AM	#16
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1709358	I haven't seen enough of Lee to even have an opinion on him. However, as the resident Bama fan, I can speak a bit on Ha Ha. As the OP mentioned, he's been playing in a very similar base scheme for a two years. He's smart, and a good tackler. He's not a world beater by any means (at least up to this point). But intelligance and tackling make him valuable because you can confidently line him up in multiple sets and not be scared in doing so. Overall a very very solid player that would be more than a worthy pick for any team. especially the Chiefs with their situtation with Lewis. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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01-03-2014, 07:07 AM	#17
McBeard Banned Join Date: Dec 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	Ha Ha is a suspect tackler. He's an ankle biter. I think we will hear a lot more about this leading up to the draft. He is a fantastic play maker but he needs to improve his tackling. I loved Lee coming into the season but he dropped a bunch of balls. I'd be OK with taking him but I'd prefer Jordan Mathews or Odell Beckham. Those guys run perfect routes and catch everything. They are more in line with what we need. I'd take Lee if I had to choose between the two.
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01-06-2014, 12:32 AM	#18
KevB Agree to Disagree Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The State of Euphoria Casino cash: $10026612	I'm going to be banging the drum for Marqise Lee. Dude was a top 5 pick if he came out last year and didn't bust at the combine. Injuries impacted his performance this season, which benefits us picking at 23. He's the playmaker at WR we've been looking for, and he might actually fall to us.
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01-06-2014, 12:33 AM	#19
BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3159900 VARSITY	I think Marqise Lee starts to rise again and exits the realm of possibility for KC. If he somehow lasts to 23, I don't see how you could pass.
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01-06-2014, 11:58 AM	#22
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01-06-2014, 04:03 PM	#24
Jakemall Veteran Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Los Angeles Casino cash: $10010313	You take which ever one is there at 23 and laugh your head off with manical happiness. Ha Ha would probably have the bigger impact right now. You can probably get a solid WR or TE in the 3rd or 4th rounds... Dion Bailey might be there in the 3rd too..but I don't know if he'll be there deep enough for the Chiefs. Last edited by Jakemall; 01-06-2014 at 04:11 PM..
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01-06-2014, 04:32 PM	#27
alpha_omega Supporter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Liberty Casino cash: $-1820000	I'll take whichever one is there...but probably neither will be. For the record, i love that name...Ha Ha. As an aside...Gameday was at Tuscaloosa at some point this year and someone was holding up a sign saying.... "Monica Lewinsky loves Clinton Dix, Ha Ha!"...that still makes me laugh.
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01-07-2014, 02:19 AM	#29
tredadda Three-Pat Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Casino cash: $-2014947	What position is easier to replace this year in FA? To me it is WR so I would go with Ha Ha and then upgrade WR in free agency.
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