Mock (1/4) - Page 2

Direckshun · 01-04-2015, 01:07 AM

Assumptions:

1. All staff is retained.

2. S Eric Berry retires.

3. The Chiefs extend Sean Smith 3 years, $24m ($8m guaranteed).

4. The Chiefs sign C Rodney Hudson 4 years, $20m ($6m guaranteed), OLB Justin Houston 6 years, $94m ($48m guaranteed), S Ron Parker 3 years, $6m ($500k guaranteed).

5. OLB Josh Martin is tendered.

6. The Chiefs sign the following players to minimal deals: TE Demerius Harris, ILB Josh Mauga, S Kurt Coleman, LS Thomas Gafford

7. The Chiefs cut: QB Chase Daniel, WR Donnie Avery, WR AJ Jenkins, TE Anthony Fasano, OT Donald Stephenson, DE Mike DeVito, OLB Tamba Hali, CB Marcus Cooper, K Cairo Santos

8. The Chiefs let walk: RB Joe McKnight, WR Jason Avant, WR Junior Hemingway, WR Frankie Hammond, TE Richard Gordon, OT Ryan Harris, OG Jeff Linkenbach, OG Mike McGlynn, DE Kevin Dickerson, CB Chris Owens, S Kelcie McCray

9. The Chiefs sign the following free agents: WR Jermaine Kearse 3 years, $15m ($6m guaranteed), TE Lance Kendricks 2 years, $5m, NT Kendrick Ellis 2 years, $4m.

10. Compensatory picks: 3rd, 5th, 5th, 7th

On with the show:

1.18. WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma

The Chiefs need to aggressively work towards fixing their WR corps. Jermaine Kearse is a major step towards fixing that: a starting lineup of Bowe, Kearse, Wilson, and Thomas is probably enough to give defenses issues. But this is the team's major investment for the future.

Green-Beckham is an effort to potentially solve the Dwayne Bowe Problem. Bowe doesn't sync with Alex Smith and costs too much. DGB needs a lot of work, but does possess better speed, size, and the ability to be a force as a possession receiver AND as a deep threat.

The Chiefs know how to handle projects. They just drafted a major project last year in Dee Ford and he has been coming along well, racking up basically 4 sacks and a FF in two games' worth of work. DGB's ceiling is much higher.

2.49. OLB Markus Golden, Missouri

If a talent like Golden falls, the Chiefs must pounce. This team needs as much passrushing ability in the wake of cutting Hali as possible. Ford looks promising, but has essentially only played two games worth of snaps.

3.80. OG Tre' Jackson, Florida State

The advantage of having Jeff Allen around is that he can play both tackle and guard, allowing the Chiefs to take the best lineman available.

3.100. FS Kurtis Drummond, Michigan State

Abdullah will be a free agent next year.

4.115. CB Steven Nelson, Oregon State

Marcus Cooper and Chris Owens are gone -- not a huge loss, but it leaves the cupboard bare.

5.154. K Roberto Aguayo, Florida State

5.173. ILB Stephone Anthony, Clemson

5.176. ILB Tony Washington, Oregon

6.195. NT Brandon Ivory, Alabama

7.233. CB SaQwan Edwards, New Mexico

7.255. RB Dreamius Smith, West Virginia

The roster:

QB: Smith, Murray, Bray
RB: Charles, Davis, Thomas, Gray, Smith
FB: Sherman

WR: Bowe, Kearse, Green-Beckham, Wilson, Thomas
TE: Kelce, Kendricks, Harris

LT: Fisher, Allen
LG: Jackson, Duvarney-Tardif
C: Hudson, Kush
RG: Fulton, Duvaryney-Tardif
RT: Allen, Sherrod

DE: Walker, Howard
NT: Poe, Ellis, Ivory
DE: Bailey, Catapano

OLB: Ford, Golden
ILB: Mays, Anthony
ILB: Johnson, Washington
OLB: Houston, Martin

CB: Smith, Gaines, Fleming, Nelson, Edwards
S: Abdullah, Parker, Coleman, Drummond, Commings

K: Aguayo
P: Colquitt
LS: Gafford

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-04-2015, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hoover

It makes absolutely no sense to cut Santos. Look, I'm not saying he can't be cut, but we are not cutting the kid just to draft a kicker. You need to get over it.

Exactly. Yet he continues to cut Santos and Daniel with every mock. It's hilarious.

CoMoChief · 01-04-2015, 07:57 PM

First 3 picks were good then you went full reerun.

raybec 4 · 01-06-2015, 08:11 AM

I know it's roster churn but what does Smith give you at the bottom end of the running back position that Charkandrick West (who already has a year in the system) doesn't?

DTLB58 · 01-06-2015, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by royalschiefs

Why would you waste a pick on another rookie kicker?

It's not a waste IF the guy comes thru. And Aguayo has proven in his college career that he is one of the best. He has been amazing. Just like getting a great punter, ST can make a huge difference, especially with our offense.

Now, Personally I don't think we are letting Santos go, but I'm not against it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-06-2015, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58

It's not a waste IF the guy comes thru. And Aguayo has proven in his college career that he is one of the best. He has been amazing. Just like getting a great punter, ST can make a huge difference, especially with our offense.

Now, Personally I don't think we are letting Santos go, but I'm not against it.

Cairo Santos:

Lou Groza Award (2012)
Consensus All-American (2012)
Most points by a rookie kicker in Kansas City Chiefs history (113 points)
Most field goals made (25) by a rookie kicker in Kansas City Chiefs history (tied)

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There is absolutely no reason at this point to cut Santos. None, zip, nada.

Drafting a kicker in the 5th would be a waste of a valuable resource.

Discuss Thrower · 01-06-2015, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Cairo Santos:

Lou Groza Award (2012)
Consensus All-American (2012)
Most points by a rookie kicker in Kansas City Chiefs history (113 points)
Most field goals made (25) by a rookie kicker in Kansas City Chiefs history (tied)

CUT HIS ASS.

**The Franchise** · 01-06-2015, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Cairo Santos:

Lou Groza Award (2012)
Consensus All-American (2012)
Most points by a rookie kicker in Kansas City Chiefs history (113 points)
Most field goals made (25) by a rookie kicker in Kansas City Chiefs history (tied)

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There is absolutely no reason at this point to cut Santos. None, zip, nada.

Drafting a kicker in the 5th would be a waste of a valuable resource.

I'm not a fan of his kickoffs.

O.city · 01-06-2015, 04:12 PM

I almost wonder if they purposely have him kick it short on the chance they can pin a team inside the 20 or something.

Chief Roundup · 01-06-2015, 05:22 PM

Why would we draft another kicker? We are not moving on from Santos for another couple of years.
Why keep Bowe, add FA WR at $5M a year and draft a WR in the first? This offense and QB does not utilize that position. It would be a horrible waste of resources to invest that much into a position that will not net us anything.

Oh and who is Kevin Dickerson? Is that the love child for Shaun Smith?

Chief Roundup · 01-06-2015, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

And you continue to cut Chase Daniel.

The only way he gets cut is late in training camp if Murray or Bray look the part.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-06-2015, 09:30 PM

Golden is not lasting to #48.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-06-2015, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

First 3 picks were good then you went full reerun.

Not only are his first two selections absurd but two out of the first three are from Missouri.

CleveSteve · 01-16-2015, 09:49 PM

Golden and Anthony are two of my top three guys at their respective positions in a 3-4, I'm hoping my Browns will end up with those two, but they won't... Because Browns.

01-04-2015, 01:07 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Mock (1/4) Assumptions: 1. All staff is retained. 2. S Eric Berry retires. 3. The Chiefs extend Sean Smith 3 years, $24m ($8m guaranteed). 4. The Chiefs sign C Rodney Hudson 4 years, $20m ($6m guaranteed), OLB Justin Houston 6 years, $94m ($48m guaranteed), S Ron Parker 3 years, $6m ($500k guaranteed). 5. OLB Josh Martin is tendered. 6. The Chiefs sign the following players to minimal deals: TE Demerius Harris, ILB Josh Mauga, S Kurt Coleman, LS Thomas Gafford 7. The Chiefs cut: QB Chase Daniel, WR Donnie Avery, WR AJ Jenkins, TE Anthony Fasano, OT Donald Stephenson, DE Mike DeVito, OLB Tamba Hali, CB Marcus Cooper, K Cairo Santos 8. The Chiefs let walk: RB Joe McKnight, WR Jason Avant, WR Junior Hemingway, WR Frankie Hammond, TE Richard Gordon, OT Ryan Harris, OG Jeff Linkenbach, OG Mike McGlynn, DE Kevin Dickerson, CB Chris Owens, S Kelcie McCray 9. The Chiefs sign the following free agents: WR Jermaine Kearse 3 years, $15m ($6m guaranteed), TE Lance Kendricks 2 years, $5m, NT Kendrick Ellis 2 years, $4m. 10. Compensatory picks: 3rd, 5th, 5th, 7th On with the show: 1.18. WR Dorial Green-Beckham, Oklahoma The Chiefs need to aggressively work towards fixing their WR corps. Jermaine Kearse is a major step towards fixing that: a starting lineup of Bowe, Kearse, Wilson, and Thomas is probably enough to give defenses issues. But this is the team's major investment for the future. Green-Beckham is an effort to potentially solve the Dwayne Bowe Problem. Bowe doesn't sync with Alex Smith and costs too much. DGB needs a lot of work, but does possess better speed, size, and the ability to be a force as a possession receiver AND as a deep threat. The Chiefs know how to handle projects. They just drafted a major project last year in Dee Ford and he has been coming along well, racking up basically 4 sacks and a FF in two games' worth of work. DGB's ceiling is much higher. 2.49. OLB Markus Golden, Missouri If a talent like Golden falls, the Chiefs must pounce. This team needs as much passrushing ability in the wake of cutting Hali as possible. Ford looks promising, but has essentially only played two games worth of snaps. 3.80. OG Tre' Jackson, Florida State The advantage of having Jeff Allen around is that he can play both tackle and guard, allowing the Chiefs to take the best lineman available. 3.100. FS Kurtis Drummond, Michigan State Abdullah will be a free agent next year. 4.115. CB Steven Nelson, Oregon State Marcus Cooper and Chris Owens are gone -- not a huge loss, but it leaves the cupboard bare. 5.154. K Roberto Aguayo, Florida State 5.173. ILB Stephone Anthony, Clemson 5.176. ILB Tony Washington, Oregon 6.195. NT Brandon Ivory, Alabama 7.233. CB SaQwan Edwards, New Mexico 7.255. RB Dreamius Smith, West Virginia The roster: QB: Smith, Murray, Bray RB: Charles, Davis, Thomas, Gray, Smith FB: Sherman WR: Bowe, Kearse, Green-Beckham, Wilson, Thomas TE: Kelce, Kendricks, Harris LT: Fisher, Allen LG: Jackson, Duvarney-Tardif C: Hudson, Kush RG: Fulton, Duvaryney-Tardif RT: Allen, Sherrod DE: Walker, Howard NT: Poe, Ellis, Ivory DE: Bailey, Catapano OLB: Ford, Golden ILB: Mays, Anthony ILB: Johnson, Washington OLB: Houston, Martin CB: Smith, Gaines, Fleming, Nelson, Edwards S: Abdullah, Parker, Coleman, Drummond, Commings K: Aguayo P: Colquitt LS: Gafford
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