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Old 04-20-2015, 09:12 AM  
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Isn't Winston basically just Byron Leftwich?
Jameis Winston a right handed version of Byron Leftwich

loopy,slow throwing motion
heavy-footed pocket presence



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Old 04-20-2015, 09:57 AM   #16
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Old 04-20-2015, 10:06 AM   #17
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Old 04-20-2015, 10:54 AM   #19
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Old 04-20-2015, 10:59 AM   #20
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I never paid attention to Left witch until a talking head broke down his circle wind up when he threw.
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:09 PM   #22
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Jameis Winston a right handed version of Byron Leftwich



loopy,slow throwing motion

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Uh. Leftwich was right handed.
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:10 PM   #23
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I don't know if he is going to be any good. I think this board vastly over-estimates the ability to project from college to pro.

The whole Geno Smith thing was hilarious -- for years, this board ridiculed spread offense passing numbers, until Geno came along. Then if you suggested Geno's numbers were not very meaningful because he came from an Air Raid system, you were a racist.

What makes a top ten NFL QB? There is simply no blueprint.
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I don't know if he is going to be any good. I think this board vastly over-estimates the ability to project from college to pro.

The whole Geno Smith thing was hilarious -- for years, this board ridiculed spread offense passing numbers, until Geno came along. Then if you suggested Geno's numbers were not very meaningful because he came from an Air Raid system, you were a racist.

What makes a top ten NFL QB? There is simply no blueprint.
Everyone who cared about facts saw what happened to Geno Smith when he wasn't playing in the Big East anymore, and how he handled himself in advance of the draft. If anyone was still on board with him after that, objectivity wasn't a concern for them.
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Old 04-20-2015, 12:40 PM   #25
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I don't know if he is going to be any good. I think this board vastly over-estimates the ability to project from college to pro.

The whole Geno Smith thing was hilarious -- for years, this board ridiculed spread offense passing numbers, until Geno came along. Then if you suggested Geno's numbers were not very meaningful because he came from an Air Raid system, you were a racist.

What makes a top ten NFL QB? There is simply no blueprint.
Wrong. The board stopped ridiculing QBs from spread offenses when Blaine Gabbert came along. Then it was cool.

Remember 2012 as well. RGIII had a flaming shit ton of backers. Direckshun liked Brandon Weeden. There were a lot of people who were big fans of Nick Foles as well.

CP had gotten over its spread QB prejudice long before the 2013 draft.
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The thing about Winston is ability wise he has it all. He's a little careless with the football, but that's stuff he can learn from.


What concerns me is his dedication to the game. Will he put in the time in the film room? Is he a leader, and will he steal more crab legs. But from a qb on the field stand point I have no questions about him.
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Old 04-20-2015, 02:50 PM   #28
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The thing about Winston is ability wise he has it all. He's a little careless with the football, but that's stuff he can learn from.


What concerns me is his dedication to the game. Will he put in the time in the film room? Is he a leader, and will he steal more crab legs. But from a qb on the field stand point I have no questions about him.
From a measurables standpoint, other than his height/weight, he's significantly below the other QB's this year.



Those are not elite numbers. At all.

From a measurables (height, weight, athletics, etc.) perspective, he's amazingly close to Jamarcus Russell. Big armed, less than ideal accuracy. Both show up to their pro days with a gut.

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No he's not. He has a big arm. He can make all the throws. He has some mechanical things that cause balls to sail that will be adjusted. He's clutch, he has a short memory and isn't afraid of the big moments. What elite numbers are you referring to?
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