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Old 07-26-2016, 07:50 AM  
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Tom Jackson leaving ESPN

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-back-at-espn/

ESPN is falling off a cliff. Tom Jackson, Colin Cowherd, Mike Tirico, Stuart Scott (RIP) and now Tom Jackson. Everybody wants out.

Even Skip Bayless left and this moron was one of the last pieces keeping people watching the last few years.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:12 AM   #16
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Losing the guys they've lost will INCREASE viewers
Probably not.

Axing those guys 10 years ago might have made a difference, but are you going back now that Jackson's out? I'm not.

I've found better things to watch. I haven't actually sat down and watched ESPN apart from Sunday Night Baseball or Monday Night Football in probably 10 years. It was when they gave Snoop Dog a segment on Sportscenter. At that point, I gave up.

MLB Network and NFL Network are far better products. During basketball season I just watch TNT and their post-game stuff (and record the morning NBA show to find a Lakers segment). NHL Network is lagging behind MLB and NFL but since ESPN has simply refused to acknowledge that it exists since they lost the cable rights (the last analysis showed the WNBA getting more coverage on ESPN), the bar isn't exactly a high one to clear.

That ship has sailed. At this point, all ESPN can do is streamline, IMO. They lost their market advantage and have had to resort to insane television rights deals to try to maintain some semblance of domination. They're still the biggest dog, but they're more of a plurality leader at this point rather than the monolith they used to be.

And trotting clowns like Tom Jackson to preach to us every Sunday (or Chris Berman to simply stammer) is a big part of it. And now that they've gone full ESJN and decided to back every social justice plea they can get their hands on, they've gone from benignly annoying to loudly obnoxious.

ESPN can just die already.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:18 AM   #17
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Probably not.

Axing those guys 10 years ago might have made a difference, but are you going back now that Jackson's out? I'm not.

I've found better things to watch. I haven't actually sat down and watched ESPN apart from Sunday Night Baseball or Monday Night Football in probably 10 years. It was when they gave Snoop Dog a segment on Sportscenter. At that point, I gave up.

MLB Network and NFL Network are far better products. During basketball season I just watch TNT and their post-game stuff (and record the morning NBA show to find a Lakers segment). NHL Network is lagging behind MLB and NFL but since ESPN has simply refused to acknowledge that it exists since they lost the cable rights (the last analysis showed the WNBA getting more coverage on ESPN), the bar isn't exactly a high one to clear.

That ship has sailed. At this point, all ESPN can do is streamline, IMO. They lost their market advantage and have had to resort to insane television rights deals to try to maintain some semblance of domination. They're still the biggest dog, but they're more of a plurality leader at this point rather than the monolith they used to be.

And trotting clowns like Tom Jackson to preach to us every Sunday (or Chris Berman to simply stammer) is a big part of it. And now that they've gone full ESJN and decided to back every social justice plea they can get their hands on, they've gone from benignly annoying to loudly obnoxious.

ESPN can just die already.
If it's not on the Disney Channel at this point, I'm probably not getting a chance to watch it anyway.

But no, my nfl coverage comes from nfl net and twitter, and the rest from their own nets.

But if espn adds interesting personalities, I'll watch some.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:27 AM   #18
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I always hated Tom Jackson anyway, so good riddance.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:30 AM   #19
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Why did it take Tom Jackson so long to fix his teeth?
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:41 AM   #20
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Losing those guys doesn't automatically mean they'll increase viewership, especially when you replace them with losers like Max Kellerman.
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Old 07-26-2016, 09:44 AM   #21
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:01 AM   #22
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:04 AM   #23
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Wanted to be upset over this and Berman, mainly because I watched Primetime back in the day and the Blitz the last few years. Then, after reflection, I realized I mostly liked those shows for the highlight music. Hope that stays
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Probably not.

Axing those guys 10 years ago might have made a difference, but are you going back now that Jackson's out? I'm not.

I've found better things to watch. I haven't actually sat down and watched ESPN apart from Sunday Night Baseball or Monday Night Football in probably 10 years. It was when they gave Snoop Dog a segment on Sportscenter. At that point, I gave up.

MLB Network and NFL Network are far better products. During basketball season I just watch TNT and their post-game stuff (and record the morning NBA show to find a Lakers segment). NHL Network is lagging behind MLB and NFL but since ESPN has simply refused to acknowledge that it exists since they lost the cable rights (the last analysis showed the WNBA getting more coverage on ESPN), the bar isn't exactly a high one to clear.

That ship has sailed. At this point, all ESPN can do is streamline, IMO.
ESPN is not dead. They have the financial power of Disney and at some point, whether it's this year or next year or 2020, they'll put that immense financial power to use, hiring the best producers and creatives in the business in order to right the ship.

While I agree that it's 10 years too late for you and me, they'll make it happen, with Disney Channel/Disney XD and theme park crossovers and more.

They're not dead. Not by a long shot.
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:53 AM   #27
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Wanted to be upset over this and Berman, mainly because I watched Primetime back in the day and the Blitz the last few years. Then, after reflection, I realized I mostly liked those shows for the highlight music. Hope that stays
Unlike 99% of every other broadcast channel (save the Infomercials), the music will likely stay because ESPN doesn't pay royalties for music used in their programming.

They'll occasionally do a buyout but most composers and libraries don't want to deal with them because there's no backend royalties, hence why they always use 20-30 year old music for their highlight shows.
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:55 AM   #28
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Did espn just hire randy moss or was that someone else?
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:56 AM   #29
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Did espn just hire randy moss or was that someone else?
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Old 07-26-2016, 10:58 AM   #30
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I thought so. He's a good one to have.

It sucks, but espn is also catering to a different type of fan than most here at cp
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