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Old 12-01-2016, 11:40 AM  
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Analyzing Tyreek Hill's improbable tying TD

So I watched NFL films version of this game and got a few gif's. While watching this, it really made me realize how crazy and fortunate we were on the Tyreek Hill tying TD play.
Looking more in depth revealed some important (even critical) details:

1. Roby should have been called for PI. He hit Hill's helmet and grabbed his left shoulder area. I honestly have no idea how Hill caught this ball.
Roby flies over him and nearly bats the ball but barely misses. I don't know how the hell Hill saw the ball and grabbed it. It was a low pass with Roby right in his line of vision along with his head being hit. It's incredible that he caught this ball in the first place, but it was actually a good thing that this happened bc of where the ball was when Hill had control, thus the overturn of the call. Here's a few gifs showing this:





2. I didn't realize until today that Denver's DL Jared Crick actually tipped the ball. The ball was barely low enough and had enough velocity to make it to Hill without being batted away by Roby.



I don't think this pass is complete without the tip. It looks like it would have been higher and Roby would have got it. Another crazy circumstance that went our way.

3. Finally, seeing the entire play unfold, it was obvious that this was a designed 1 read to Hill. Alex looked at Hill the entire time from the time the ball was snapped.
Look at the bottom. Kelce is wide ****ing open. He clearly beat Darian Stewart by at least 2 steps. It wasn't even close. It would have been as easy TD.



The bottom routes by Kelce and Wilson were basically the exact play design Seattle ran when they lost the SB. That's a damn hard route to stop, especially against Kelce.

It worked and we won, but I really wish Alex would have changed Andy's play design and looked to Kelce. Everyone knew it was a blitz, however Kelce was by far the biggest matchup for us pre-snap.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:13 PM   #16
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Kelce was wide the hell open. Damn.

That's a great breakdown of the catch. So many things had to happen just so for us to get the score there. I doubt we will see a play like that again for a long time.

But ultimately, man, what concentration by Hill, especially considering the situation and what was on the line. His play before that to get the first down on fourth and ten was ****ing nails, as well. This kid might just be legit.
Every game it seems like we're talking about missed opportunities that were there for Alex to make.

And yet every week these drooling reeruns are here telling me this is Reid's fault.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:14 PM   #17
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Wow. Just wow. After this breakdown, I dont ever want to hear an Alex fan mention that his interception against the Bucs was tipped.

What incredible luck! We are very fortunate.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:15 PM   #18
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KELCE IS WIDE OPEN

In the last gif!!! Holy crap lol.. I mean no matter what throw we make its a TD, but if the REFS were one of the dumb ass crews, we wouldve lost due to loss of time on the clock.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:15 PM   #19
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I'd imagine presnap you're looking to target Hill with Roby vs Kelce with Talib?
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:18 PM   #20
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How cool would it be if they had helmet cam's and used them in games for situations like this? I really wish Hill had a camera on his helmet so I could see what he saw on that pass.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:18 PM   #21
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Wow. Just wow. After this breakdown, I dont ever want to hear an Alex fan mention that his interception against the Bucs was tipped.

What incredible luck! We are very fortunate.
shut up, just because you like the quarterback of your favorite team, doesnt make you an alex fan, the said person is still a chief fan. This shit is getting really old...

better sentence structure would be I dont ever want to hear anyone mention that alex's interception against the Buc's was tipped.... Rather than making your stupid ass sentence immediately an argument with the "alex fan" comment.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:18 PM   #22
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I'd imagine presnap you're looking to target Hill with Roby vs Kelce with Talib?
It's also a throw across the field that could possibly be undercut.

Would like to see it from a different angle.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:19 PM   #23
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I'd imagine presnap you're looking to target Hill with Roby vs Kelce with Talib?
This was a factor.
I'm thankful we have an option besides Kelce.
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:22 PM   #24
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It's pretty incredibly how much production they do get out of Alex considering he can't seem to handle more than one read or be accurate w/o locking onto a receiver for a second or two. They treat him like a rookie.
If this was true, then Alex would never throw to his checkdown, considering going to your checkdown is considered to AT LEAST, be your 2nd read.
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There's no doubt in my mind that Andy specifically drew this up to go to Hill. Alex was looking right at him the entire time.
It just looks like a 1 read play design. Andy knew they'd blitz so the call makes sense.

It was Darian Stewart that Kelce smoked. Kelce smoked Denver all game long.

Also note that Hill was a bad matchup. Roby is Denver's fastest and quickest CB capable of actually staying with Hill and that's what happened.
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I really ****ing hate these designed one read bullshit plays.
Especially with how many gigs he has available
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Old 12-01-2016, 12:24 PM   #27
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There's no doubt in my mind that Andy specifically drew this up to go to Hill. Alex was looking right at him the entire time.
It just looks like a 1 read play design. Andy knew they'd blitz so the call makes sense.

It was Darian Stewart that Kelce smoked. Kelce smoked Denver all game long.
This throw to hill was probably one of the most common goal line throws anyone will see in the NFL. Beat your guy with speed (which hill has) get to the line, grab ball, fall backwards.
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It was an all out blitz with a free blitzer from the right side. You don't have time for more than the first read. That's the right call
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There's no doubt in my mind that Andy specifically drew this up to go to Hill. Alex was looking right at him the entire time.
It just looks like a 1 read play design. Andy knew they'd blitz so the call makes sense.

It was Darian Stewart that Kelce smoked. Kelce smoked Denver all game long.
In these situations, you're always going to go with a single read then go action. You know Denver is bringing more guys than the Chiefs ol has to block them.

Unless your primary falls down or something, it's gotta come out quick.
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