Should the Chiefs sign Eric Berry for 5/70m with 38m guaranteed?

[BlackHelicopters]

No

[O.city]

At that, no.

That money can get you 2 good players. It sucks, he's a leader and a great player, but at that money, good luck and thanks for the memories eric.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

At that, no.

That money can get you 2 good players. It sucks, he's a leader and a great player, but at that money, good luck and thanks for the memories eric.

It's sad to think about Eric being a falcon...but I think we all need to remove the emotion from the situation and think about the situation with realistic shades on.

Honestly, I fully believe the defense will be fine if it loses Poe AND Berry.

[RunKC]

It was reported that he wanted the same % as Earl Thomas, which Thomas got 13.3% of Seattle's cap ($133 million cap in 2014 divided by Thomas' $10 million avg)

We have no choice but to keep him, but the smart thing to do here is offer him a deal that's 5% higher than Honey Badger's deal in every aspect and if he refuses, tell the media that we offered him top dollar and he said no.

[Hydrae]

Originally Posted by RunKC

It was reported that he wanted the same % as Earl Thomas, which Thomas got 13.3% of Seattle's cap ($133 million cap in 2014 divided by Thomas' $10 million avg)

We have no choice but to keep him, but the smart thing to do here is offer him a deal that's 5% higher than Honey Badger's deal in every aspect and if he refuses, tell the media that we offered him top dollar and he said no.

Have not read the entire thread so this may have already been pointed out but your math is all wrong. $10 million out of $133 million is not 13.3%, it is close to 7.5%. You got your numbers backwards. 13.3% of $133 million is close to $17.5 million.

Now you may return to your normally argumentative thread!

[Quesadilla Joe]

That's a lot of coin for a safety. That's about what TJ Ward (2 time Pro Bowler) and Darian Stewart (1 time Pro Bowler) make combined.

[ThaVirus]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

That's a lot of coin for a safety. That's about what TJ Ward (2 time Pro Bowler) and Darian Stewart (1 time Pro Bowler) make combined.

He's better than both combined soooo...

[Quesadilla Joe]

Originally Posted by ThaVirus

He's better than both combined soooo...

They all have similar skill sets, Berry is just a much better athlete.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Berry has the Chiefs by the balls.

He's stated he'll sit out this season if he's franchised and he wants to be the highest paid safety in the league.

If the Chiefs don't sign him, the court if public opinion will be staunchly against them and most likely, savage. If they do sign him to a similar deal that Boss has suggested, he could really hurt their cap for a few years, especially if he has an injury in which he misses a significant amount of time.

My gut tells me Dorsey, Reid and Hunt choose to overpay for the posistion.

Yep.

The thing is, the Chiefs basically tagged him and told him to prove that he's worthy of the big contract. Is anyone really going to try and make the argument that he didn't prove it in the '16 season?

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

That's a lot of coin for a safety. That's about what TJ Ward (2 time Pro Bowler) and Darian Stewart (1 time Pro Bowler) make combined.

Nobody cares about the Broncos third place franchise, troll.

I've defended you but lately you are nothing but a troll.

[Red Dawg]

That deal is insane. No is the only answer.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

That's a lot of coin for a safety. That's about what TJ Ward (2 time Pro Bowler) and Darian Stewart (1 time Pro Bowler) make combined.

See. This is the kind of troll bait bullshit we are talking about.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

See. This is the kind of troll bait bullshit we are talking about.

He's got a ridiculously good point there though. I think Eric Berry is being WAY overvalued, especially by KC fans in terms of what he really brings to the table as a player. I fully expect KC to pay a bit more than Mathieu's 62.5/21.25 deal, but 70/38 is going way over and above that. And to me, Mathieu's contract is overpaying for Berry. I happen to understand the leadership part of it, and he is a good safety, but he's still a safety.

I think KC could get very good safety play for half that, and that's exactly what Ward and Stewart bring to the table.

Ron Parker is a very good safety, and he's making 25/5.75. I really think KC is making a big mistake if they pay the kind of money to Berry that the OP is talking about. I'm worried enough about the 63/28 I predicted.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I think Eric Berry is being WAY overvalued, especially by KC fans in terms of what he really brings to the table as a player.

Berry had a top 5 coverage grade and a top 15 run defense grade.

The only other guys like that on PFF are Kam Chancellor and Eric Weddle.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by Spider2YBanana

Berry had a top 5 coverage grade and a top 15 run defense grade.

The only other guys like that on PFF are Kam Chancellor and Eric Weddle.

What are Ward and Stewart's rankings for the past 3 seasons in run and pass defense Clay, I'm curious actually.