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Who will 100% *Not* be on the board at #32?

Curious how many (and which) players we are 100% sure will not be available when we pick?

Are we talking about a pool of 10 guys? 20 guys?

Veach said yesterday during his presser that there are "4 QB's and 4 Premium Tackles, so you can expect a lot of curveballs."

So who will be gone-gone, and who does that leave us to choose from, should they fall?
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:34 PM   #16
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i appreciate the list, but think you put too many guys on it as locks. I think at least one of queen and Murray will be there. I think Fulton could be there. Becton and ruiz as well.
That is only 24 names that I listed. Ruiz might not be there but most places I have seen Becton is listed as one of the top tackle prospects.
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:39 PM   #17
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That is only 24 names that I listed. Ruiz might not be there but most places I have seen Becton is listed as one of the top tackle prospects.
I know. It's not about the number, it's the certainty that THOSE 24 will be gone. I agree with most of them, just not completely sure on some others. There will be some players taken that people will think are "reaches" even if they really aren't. See: Mitch Morse. (I know he wasn't a first rounder, but most Chief Fans thought he was a reach. Then, he signed the largest contract for a center in the NFL.)
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:45 PM   #18
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I know. It's not about the number, it's the certainty that THOSE 24 will be gone. I agree with most of them, just not completely sure on some others. There will be some players taken that people will think are "reaches" even if they really aren't. See: Mitch Morse. (I know he wasn't a first rounder, but most Chief Fans thought he was a reach. Then, he signed the largest contract for a center in the NFL.)
Oh I understand. Like others have stated. Most places only have 15 to 20 players with 1st round grades, alas there is 32 picks in the first. So there will be 12 to 17 "reaches". There will definitely be players ala Mitch Morse. Hopefully that will be the 7 players that I didn't mention.
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:47 PM   #19
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See: Mitch Morse. (I know he wasn't a first rounder, but most Chief Fans thought he was a reach. Then, he signed the largest contract for a center in the NFL.)
I never thought he was a reach but let's also acknowledge that his predecessor, Rodney Hudson, also signed the largest contract for a center after 4 years with the Chiefs.

Andy Reid knows offensive lineman.
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:50 PM   #20
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I never thought he was a reach but let's also acknowledge that his predecessor, Rodney Hudson, also signed the largest contract for a center after 4 years with the Chiefs.

Andy Reid knows offensive lineman.
He does and that's awesome.
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:52 PM   #21
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Old 04-17-2020, 09:33 PM   #22
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Guys I'd say "absolutely not"
QB Burrow
QB Herbert
QB Love
OT Wirfs
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LB Simmons
LB Queen
CB Okudah
CB Henderson
DT Brown
DE Young
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WR Lamb
WR J. Jefferson
WR Ruggs

Guys with some concerns but I can't see being there based on talent:
DT Kinlaw - Are his knees a real issue?, I have him at 8 to ARZ
QB Tua - 13 Wonderlic and Injury concerns, I have him to NE at 23
OT Becton - Positive drug tests at the combine are never a good thing so I dropped him to 29 to TEN
WR Jeudy - 9 Wonderlic but insane talent creates a conundrum, I have him to PHI at 21
CB Johnson - Are shoulder injuries that big of a concern? I have him to LVR at 19


Other guys I fully expect will be gone:
OT Jones - Is he a tackle? That's the big question. I'm more yes than no. I have him at 20 to JAX.
CB Terrell - I think he's higher on boards than many think, I have him at 17 to DAL.
CB Diggs - Not alot of good press corners in this draft, I have him at 22 to MIN.
LB Baun - He fits 3-4 teams well at either OLB or ILB and teams like SEA (where I have him going) that use a wide end/leo. I think he's gone.
WR Mims - Athleticism and catch radius get you drafted early, I have him at 25 to MIN
LB Murray - He's not good in coverage for all that athleticism and he can't take on blocks, but I think some team takes a shot,, I have him to NO at 24
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Guys I'd say "absolutely not"
QB Burrow
QB Herbert
QB Love
OT Wirfs
OT Wills
OT Thomas
LB Simmons
LB Queen
CB Okudah
CB Henderson
DT Brown
DE Young
ER Chaisson
WR Lamb
WR J. Jefferson
WR Ruggs

Guys with some concerns but I can't see being there based on talent:
DT Kinlaw - Are his knees a real issue?, I have him at 8 to ARZ
QB Tua - 13 Wonderlic and Injury concerns, I have him to NE at 23
OT Becton - Positive drug tests at the combine are never a good thing so I dropped him to 29 to TEN
WR Jeudy - 9 Wonderlic but insane talent creates a conundrum, I have him to PHI at 21
CB Johnson - Are shoulder injuries that big of a concern? I have him to LVR at 19


Other guys I fully expect will be gone:
OT Jones - Is he a tackle? That's the big question. I'm more yes than no. I have him at 20 to JAX.
CB Terrell - I think he's higher on boards than many think, I have him at 17 to DAL.
CB Diggs - Not alot of good press corners in this draft, I have him at 22 to MIN.
LB Baun - He fits 3-4 teams well at either OLB or ILB and teams like SEA (where I have him going) that use a wide end/leo. I think he's gone.
WR Mims - Athleticism and catch radius get you drafted early, I have him at 25 to MIN
LB Murray - He's not good in coverage for all that athleticism and he can't take on blocks, but I think some team takes a shot,, I have him to NO at 24
Jeudy WILL be gone. If not, run the virtual card up immediately.
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With a 9 Wonderlic? That's not even considered 100% Literate. Seriously dude, no.
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Jeudy WILL be gone. If not, run the virtual card up immediately.
That's why I put him in the list of guys I don't think will be there based on talent. He's just too talented for a team not to deal with him taking 2 years to learn the playbook.

Now a guy like Shenault that's a box of rocks and doesn't have any athleticism and struggles against press, yeah that guy is dropping like a rock. I don't think he goes day 2 at this point.
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Jeudy WILL be gone. If not, run the virtual card up immediately.
Yes, Jeudy will be long gone. And I agree, if he is there you just turn the card in.

Chaisson is a guy that I don't think is a must be gone type. He is a finesse player, Dee Ford style pass-rusher and that isn't a must have for a lot of NFL teams.

If you already have tons of pressure it's nice to have Chaisson run around the edge but it's not super high impact.
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