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Old 09-30-2020, 11:01 AM  
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Which QB is better: Dak Prescott or Lamar Jackson?
Was just talking about this with coworkers.

Most agreed Dak overall was better. Both will be looking to get paid soon.

Who’s the better QB?
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Old 09-30-2020, 11:20 AM   #16
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You really love pimping overrated as **** players don't you? JFC dude...
Not pimping either player. They both have their limitations.
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Old 09-30-2020, 11:21 AM   #17
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Dak, because he doesn't funnel you into one specific offense you can run.
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Old 09-30-2020, 11:24 AM   #18
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This is awful. I hope whoever proposed this gets aids. That said, if i had to have one i think i would go Lamar and pray he progresses as a passer. He has a skill set that teams dont prepare for with every other team they play. Its a boom or bust theory, Lamar could get better and go on a run against teams that just dont match up, where Dak is what he is. He has about as good of weapons as he could have anywhere, his lines banged up but basically you couldnt do anything that just obviously takes his game to another level personel wise.

All that said, a part of me believes Jackson has been exposed, the recipe is out.
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Old 09-30-2020, 11:24 AM   #19
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Dak is a quarterback, Lamar is an athlete that can play quarterback.

Dak every day...

If the Cowboys defense could stop anyone, they'd be 3-0.
Agreed. Alex Smith is a pretty decent comparison.

Dak is decent and you can win games with him, but everything else has to be good too.

But he’s definitely going to frustrate you at times.
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Which brings up another good hypothetical question...what would Lamar's trade value be worth?
In today's NFL he easily fetches at least 3 first round picks plus a bevy of mids. Ramsey and Adams both were traded for 2 firsts despite needing new contracts. Get enough desperate teams bidding and you might get 4 or even 5.
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Old 09-30-2020, 11:28 AM   #21
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Agreed. Alex Smith is a pretty decent comparison.

Dak is decent and you can win games with him, but everything else has to be good too.

But he’s definitely going to frustrate you at times.
Can you win it all with him though? I mean, we have hindsight on Mahomes now but Pat took over essentially the same team that Alex led to a career year and immediately took them to the AFCCG.

If Dak really is Alex Smith, that's a dead end street.
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Want no part of Dak after he completed shat himself week 16 last year and lost the easiest division in football to a crippled Eagles team.
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Old 09-30-2020, 11:31 AM   #23
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Can you win it all with him though? I mean, we have hindsight on Mahomes now but Pat took over essentially the same team that Alex led to a career year and immediately took them to the AFCCG.

If Dak really is Alex Smith, that's a dead end street.
I’m telling you. Don’t pay QBs if they aren’t elite. It won’t be worth it.

Someone will think they’re “a QB away” from winning the Super Bowl (and maybe they’re right). That team will give up way too much.

Package those picks to move up and get your guy. Try him out on a loaded team while he’s on a rookie deal. Extend if he’s elite. If he’s not, trade and repeat.
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Old 09-30-2020, 11:33 AM   #24
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Was just talking about this with coworkers.

Most agreed Dak overall was better. Both will be looking to get paid soon.

Who’s the better QB?
If I had to choose between the two.....Jackson. This is being said in a hypothetical that I have to ride with one of the two of them, no trades, stock-piling draft picks, and no long term impact if Jackson's knees suddenly buckle.

From a pure football standpoint as it stands today: Jackson at least shows that he can win a boat-load of regular season games and get to the playoffs. Dak can't seem to do that even with a very talented roster.

While I don't think Jackson will ever sniff a Super Bowl, who knows right? If you at least get to the playoffs, then you at least have a fighting chance. Get hot at the right time, and you never know.

But if you can't even get there, then it's no discussion.
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Dak isn’t nearly as good as the media and Cowboys fans says he is.

His ceiling is Alex Smith.
I'd reluctantly take 2017 Alex Smith over Dak OR Lamar.
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I give the edge to Lamar.

I think Dak is a better passer albeit a streaky one but overall Lamar's running ability tilts it for me.
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Dak is the better QB.
Jackson is the better RB.
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Old 09-30-2020, 11:51 AM   #28
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Neither? I'd trade both for picks and try to draft the next elite QB. I'm not paying 80 or 90% of Mahomes type money to above average QB's. You're better off investing that money elsewhere, IMO, and paying an average QB and drafting his replacement. Rinse and repeat until you hit.

That being said, if I had to pick one I'd much rather have Dak than Lamar. With Lamar, you have to build and maintain a top 5 defense and an offense built specifically for him. It would take top flight drafting, cheap free agents that hit when Lamar starts getting paid. He needs to play with a lead apparently. Dak is the better QB of the two and I don't think it's particularly close. Lamar is an amazing athlete playing at QB.
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I actually really like both QBs but I guess in all reality it would come down to what type of offense I would want to have.

If I want a more passing attack, spreading the ball out to different receivers and RBs I would go with Dak. But, Lamar fits in with Baltimores offense perfectly. So, if you want a high powered running attack based off of read options then clearly Jackson would be the choice.

The problem with Jackson, as we saw Monday night and last year against Tennessee, is you cannot rely on him to lead you to a victory with his arm.

So, long story short, I think I would side with Dak. But, damn, Lamar is electric and fun to watch usually.
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From a pure football standpoint as it stands today: Jackson at least shows that he can win a boat-load of regular season games and get to the playoffs. Dak can't seem to do that even with a very talented roster.
Dak has gotten to the playoffs a couple of times. He won alot his first 3 seasons.
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