Ever used a canned oxygen Inhaler

[Chief Roundup]

Has anyone ever used any of the Canned Oxygen Inhalers?
A couple of examples,
https://www.amazon.com/Oxygen-Supple...doorlife_os-20

https://www.amazon.com/Boost-Oxygen-...doorlife_os-20

I have an upcoming, probable, trip to altitudes that would be very difficult for me and I am being told that these should be able to get me through the trip without an issue.

[srvy]

A trip up through a mountain pass in a car is one thing but hiking to those elevations will be difficult. Having COPD and exerting yourself in a low oxygen atmosphere if you're not aerobically fit at altitude doesn't sound good.

Altitude sickness can affect people in as little as 5000 feet above sea level. I get mountain misery for about three days as soon as I get a mile above sea level. Then acclimate and am fine but those are extreme altitudes.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Donger

Okay.

How often have you been above 14,000 feet without supplemental oxygen, with exertion and not?

It has been a while but several times and I was with my siblings and or friends every time hiking, walking, exploring.

[srvy]

I have camped above treeline and hunted above it. I was always in good shape for those trips but as a flatlander, it was still a bitch. Now treeline can differ allover in Colorado it 10 to 12 thousand feet Wyoming and the Tetons about 6000 feet. Drink a lot of water expect headaches for a bit go easy.

[Chief Roundup]

The trip is not for a couple of months. We have already been doing lots of cardio training. Part of the plan is to acclimate, for about 5 or 6 days, over a few stops in Colorado and then to Calgary hitting Three Sisters, Sulphur Mountain, and Mount Whyte. Then we are headed to McArthur Peak and then to Anchorage and to Denali where we will visit the a few places, Peters Dome, North Peak and Foraker. The last part is a fishing trip out of Kodiak Island. This is suppose to all happen over 3 weeks. I think my dad is being very ambitious.
Most of this trip is going to be spent in a turbine helicopter.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

It has been a while but several times and I was with my siblings and or friends every time hiking, walking, exploring.

I've never used canned 02 because I've never gone above ~14,200 on foot, but absolutely take it with you. I live at 6,200 and I feel it above 11,000. Seeing someone go through a bad case of altitude sickness is not fun at all. I never take anyone not from Colorado to 14,000+ without knowing that I can get them back down pretty quickly. I don't even want to think about 19,000 for someone who isn't acclimatized to at least a mile up and not in very good shape.

Best of luck.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by RedinTexas

If you're on foot above 12-13,000 feet you'll tire quickly. If you're climbing, it will be very hard work. If you're climbing at higher altitudes than that, you better be in very good condition.

I remember being in Leadville for the first time and being blown away that water boiled at a lower temp.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by Donger

I've never used canned 02 because I've never gone above ~14,200 on foot, but absolutely take it with you. I live at 6,200 and I feel it above 11,000. Seeing someone go through a bad case of altitude sickness is not fun at all. I never take anyone not from Colorado to 14,000+ without knowing that I can get them back down pretty quickly. I don't even want to think about 19,000 for someone who isn't acclimatized to at least a mile up and not in very good shape.

Best of luck.

Nah when we get that high it will all be a helicopter ride to the landing spot and then we will get out take pictures and all that stuff that my dad has planned that he will not share with any of us. There are 4 of us going with dad.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Nah when we get that high it will all be a helicopter ride to the landing spot and then we will get out take pictures and all that stuff that my dad has planned that he will not share with any of us. There are 4 of us going with dad.

Okay good. I'd ask if the helo will be equipped with supplemental oxygen though. I would imagine it will be, and be concerned if it isn't. I think it's required above something like 14,000 for everyone in the aircraft, let alone 19,000

Looked it up, and was wrong:

https://www.faa.gov/pilots/safety/pi...ia/hypoxia.pdf

And:

Most pilots don't think too much about using portable oxygen. Sure, everyone knows that you have to use supplemental oxygen if you fly more than 30 minutes at cabin pressure altitudes of 12,500 feet or higher. And that at cabin altitudes above 14,000 feet pilots must use oxygen at all times. And that above 15,000 feet each occupant of the aircraft must be provided supplemental oxygen. All of this is spelled out in Federal Aviation Regulations Part 91.211.

https://www.aopa.org/training-and-sa...ltitude-flying

https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...-sec91-211.pdf

[RedinTexas]

Originally Posted by Donger

And that at cabin altitudes above 14,000 feet pilots must use oxygen at all times. And that above 15,000 feet each occupant of the aircraft must be provided supplemental oxygen. All of this is spelled out in Federal Aviation Regulations Part 91.211.

Been there, done that. Not to mention 60-90 minutes of pre-breathing oxygen before takeoff.

Remember that when you start to experience hypoxia (oxygen deprivation) it will feel a lot like being drunk. You should read up on it before going.

[SuperBowl4]

nope. just whippets

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4

nope. just whippets

I tsieh what you did there.

[Chief Roundup]

So we get Covid under control enough that travel is a go again. I started talking to my mom and dad about the trip. My mom called me today while I was on the lake and tells me that my father has been extremely tired recently. Well, in the last couple of weeks he started sleeping 14 hours, or more, every day. My mom took him to the Dr. The Doctor is scheduling a cognitive test to determine if it is Alzheimer's. His PCP thinks it is likely when mom pressed for opinions. I did a little research about early-onset dementia symptoms and age-related, etc. It is highly probable that my father has early-onset dementia. He is 80.
I am just not handling all of this stuff very well. I do not live in the same town anymore. My mom and dad are relying on others to take my mom to the stores in order to do the necessary shopping. I have not been around them much with all the Covid and me working at a hospital that is the Covid Unit for my region. I have been reluctant as have they, necessary precautions. So I haven't seen them for much of the last year. Evidently, they have been hiding things from me to let me live my life and not be a burden. My step-siblings have not been telling me or letting me know what is going on with my parents per their request.
I am so hurt, scared, and pissed that I just don't even know how to feel it all at the same time. I now need to start a search to try and find a position back home even though I do not want to live there. They have mentioned that I was the one that they thought would never leave our hometown. I have left there twice to live in other places.

[bevischief]

You bought season tickets?

[bevischief]

I have bridge to sell.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

So we get Covid under control enough that travel is a go again. I started talking to my mom and dad about the trip. My mom called me today while I was on the lake and tells me that my father has been extremely tired recently. Well, in the last couple of weeks he started sleeping 14 hours, or more, every day. My mom took him to the Dr. The Doctor is scheduling a cognitive test to determine if it is Alzheimer's. His PCP thinks it is likely when mom pressed for opinions. I did a little research about early-onset dementia symptoms and age-related, etc. It is highly probable that my father has early-onset dementia. He is 80.
I am just not handling all of this stuff very well. I do not live in the same town anymore. My mom and dad are relying on others to take my mom to the stores in order to do the necessary shopping. I have not been around them much with all the Covid and me working at a hospital that is the Covid Unit for my region. I have been reluctant as have they, necessary precautions. So I haven't seen them for much of the last year. Evidently, they have been hiding things from me to let me live my life and not be a burden. My step-siblings have not been telling me or letting me know what is going on with my parents per their request.
I am so hurt, scared, and pissed that I just don't even know how to feel it all at the same time. I now need to start a search to try and find a position back home even though I do not want to live there. They have mentioned that I was the one that they thought would never leave our hometown. I have left there twice to live in other places.

Damn, that's tough, just went through the same with my parents the last few years but they both passed away last year. Now my wife is down to 50% lung capacity with COPD and I can hardly leave the house. I'm thinking about suing all the cigarrette companies. Why those things aren't illegal I'll never understand. She even had lung cancer last year but they caught it early since she has a chest xray every six months . Five radiation treatments supposedly killed it.
She's not even supposed to drive but had to go to the store to grab more cigs a few weeks ago . She plowed into a parked pickup truck, Totaled our car and his truck. All because she was down to two packs and couldn't wait for me to go the next day to get her more.