Brown or Fish?

[bricks]

I thought I’d pose this question for the Chiefs left tackle position because I’m curious to know your opinions and how you feel who is the better player for the Chiefs when comparing those two players.

I’m disappointed in Orlando Brown so far. He hasn’t been playing up to expectations. No way is he an elite left tackle at least I say this for now because of the way he is playing. Some games he is getting beat like crazy.

Fisher on the other hand, when he was with us was a solid player. I don’t consider Fishers performance to be that of a #1 overall pick like Orlando Pace and he never will be that guy. Yeah he got beat a good handful of games but overall generally speaking he was solid.

What say you? Is there much of a difference between Fishers play in the past compared to Orlando Browns play today? Which performance was better Fisher past performance at LT or Orlando Browns play at LT right now? I don’t know
if I see much of a difference and so I thought I’d ask.

Maybe Fish’s performance in the past might be better?

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by 65TPT

Brown has pedigree. He will grow into the job.

He does not and will not. He is playing out of his natural position.

[DaFace]

In their prime? Fish without question. But that guy is gone. Given the situation (especially cap implications), Brown is probably still the better choice.

But I wish there was a third option.

[Gary Cooper]

Isn't there a large age difference between them? You take the younger player.

Brown is a pretty good RT. He needs to understand he's a liability at LT. If he wants to stay there, he needs to play better. The issue is, who else plays LT? Do we draft a LT next year? Move Niang to LT?

Same thing with Jones at DE. If he wants to play there, he can't make every opposing tackle look like Anthony Munoz.

[Straight, No Chaser]

It wasn't just Fisher it was Schwartz too.
Both of them on the field at the same time. Patrick was obviously more comfortable with those two. Schwartz was underrated and underappreciated. Dude was a solid RT, especially going up against the best in the league.

[ntexascardfan]

Brown needs to shift back to RT and we need to sign/draft an LT.

[The Franchise]

Brown is fine if you aren’t trying to drop back 10 steps. Go back to the ball control 10-12 play drives. Cut out the turnovers and we’d be fine.

[wachashi]

The team has proven they can play ball control already this year. They just refused to do so yesterday, especially once we were down 14-0. Brown is a plus run blocker and should be sufficient on the quick stuff. The problem is when teams can predict that Mahomes is going to drop deep. Brown is easily beaten on those reps. The team needs to reevaluate the offensive scheme and change up priorities on receiving routes much more than they need a new LT.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Brown is fine if you aren’t trying to drop back 10 steps. Go back to the ball control 10-12 play drives. Cut out the turnovers and we’d be fine.

Here's the sad truth.

Put Brown at LT in for SB LIV and ask the question -- "Do we have time to run Wasp?"

And the answer is no.

This cannot be the same team we're used to with Brown. And it's not because he's a bad player, he's just not the right kind of player for that sort of approach. He can still be a quality LT for us but Mahomes needs to build trust with him and we need to do more things that cover for his athletic limitations.

Could the Chiefs have still won that Super Bowl with Brown instead of Fisher? Yeah - but they couldn't have done it the way they did. And it seems like they're still trying to.

[Gary Cooper]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Here's the sad truth.

Put Brown at LT in for SB LIV and ask the question -- "Do we have time to run Wasp?"

And the answer is no.

This cannot be the same team we're used to with Brown. And it's not because he's a bad player, he's just not the right kind of player for that sort of approach. He can still be a quality LT for us but Mahomes needs to build trust with him and we need to do more things that cover for his athletic limitations.

Could the Chiefs have still won that Super Bowl with Brown instead of Fisher? Yeah - but they couldn't have done it the way they did. And it seems like they're still trying to.

Wasn't Fisher holding on that play? Or are you saying Brown is too slow to even get his hands on someone to hold them?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He has heavy feet. He might not.

But that doesn't mean it wasn't a wholly acceptable risk to have taken.

He was a perfect fit in Baltimore where rushers can't blast upfield because their style and Jackson's speed will take advantage of them. He was in a situation where his weakness was disguised by system and surrounding talent.

That's just not the case here. In Kansas City his weaknesses aren't just exposed, they're highlighted. I'm not sure it's fair to say he'll just 'grow into the job'. There's a fair chance he just won't.

First thing I'd do is ask him to drop 30 lbs. No way he should be playing at 380.

[loochy]

What about a brown fish?

[Skyy God]

Originally Posted by ntexascardfan

Brown needs to shift back to RT and we need to sign/draft an LT.

Or try Niang at LT this season.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson

Or try Niang at LT this season.

Because Niang was doing so well at an 'easier' position.

[scho63]

I think he spent $100,000 of his signing bonus on BBQ and mac n cheese.

[VAGOMO 4 LIFE!]

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