Do you agree with the fake field-goal punt call?

[wachashi]

Chiefs were up 10 with 2:45 left on the clock. Cowboys had no timeouts. It would have been a 52-yard field goal attempt. Obviously, the execution was great, but do you agree with the call?

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[Tribal Warfare]

It worked in the long run

[smithandrew051]

We were up 10. 2 possession game.

If we make it, it’s still a 2 possession game. If we miss it, it’s 2 possessions but great field position.

Worst thing we can do in that situation is to allow a quick score. Great call and better execution. With how our defense was playing, they weren’t going to allow many chunk plays. If Dallas can go 98 yards for a TD, it’s going to take some time.

[TomBarndtsTwin]

Absolutely, yes.

When I first saw they were lining up to kick it, not gonna lie, it made me nervous. Butker had already missed a couple (XP and FG). And I know the wind was moving that day, so not 100% on him (although he shouldn't have missed the short XP), but still. I generally trust him to make long kicks, but I was not feeling confident going into that one.

So you have to weigh out the cost to benefit ratio of your decision. Kick the FG, make it, still up two possessions versus kick the FG, miss it, give Dallas great starting field position to drive to get one of their two scores they're gonna need to tie. OR do what the Chiefs did. Pooch it, pin em deep and make them drive the length of the field with only 2 1/2 minutes and no timeouts and then onside kick, recover and score again.

On a different day and different circumstances it might be a different decision, but in THIS scenario and taking into account everything we knew going into it, it was ABSOLUTELY the right call. Good call by Toub and hell of a job by Butker to execute the pooch and Nick and Tommy to get down there to cover it.

Kudos all around!

[mililo4cpa]

I like the call, although I could understand if someone else didn't, particularly if it rolls into the EZ and the Pokes start at the 20....

But it all worked out just fine, which makes it even better....

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Wind was blowing towards the east endzone from above the stadium and towards the west end zone from the tops of the uprights. The flags above the stadium were screaming in one direction while the streamers on the uprights were going the other.

It was bizarre.

Yeah, we're right above the east endzone and the flags above the west jumbotron were right in our face and the FG flags by us were going the other way. It was weird.

[CoMoChief]

I dont care either way because Chiefs D was playing well, I have confidence in Butker nailing long FG's, and DAL was out of timeouts and would've gotten the ball back more than likely before end of regulation.

But they punted it and forced a long field with no timeouts left.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

We were up 10. 2 possession game.

If we make it, it’s still a 2 possession game. If we miss it, it’s 2 possessions but great field position.

Exactly. All a made FG would've done was take a tie off the table. And frankly, if you blow a 10 point lead in 2 minutes to a team with no TOs, what are the odds of you stopping the bleeding in OT anyway? The FG accomplishes very very little there.

Originally Posted by O.city

Yeah, we're right above the east endzone and the flags above the west jumbotron were right in our face and the FG flags by us were going the other way. It was weird.

I think the FG he missed was one where he expected the wind to move the ball and it just didn't happen. Granted, I think he missed a little as well, but I think he was aiming at that right upright with the wind blowing in and curling it to the middle. But when he missed right on the upright and then the ball just blasted dead straight through the wind, I'm betting that just caught him completely off guard.

I wonder if the miss a little right also had the ball going more end over end then he expected. If he was trying to hit the ball a little to the outside to pull it towards the upright, maybe the wind actually acts on the ball and pulls it the rest of the way. But by hitting it dead straight, it went directly end over end and with no initial english on the ball, the wind just didn't do anything to it at all.

He just hit the ball way too true for me to think it was an outright miss. I think he was expecting more action on the ball than he got.

[Frazod]

I was definitely surprised by it, but you really can't argue with it. The defense was dominating and there was very little time left.

[penchief]

Great call, IMO. No matter what, Dallas needed two scoring drives to win or tie. Instead of gifting them the field position by basically allowing them to start at midfield if we missed, let them use most of their juice trying to get the first score. I liked the time management aspect of it and I liked the idea that the game is over if we stop them just once.

If they had scored even a field goal off our miss, we were probably looking at an onside kick which is an absolute wild card. No doubt the right call. The way our defense was playing there was a good chance it would end the way it did.

[Fishpicker]

no. Butker can hit a 50+ yarder.

[penchief]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

We were up 10. 2 possession game.

If we make it, it’s still a 2 possession game. If we miss it, it’s 2 possessions but great field position.

Worst thing we can do in that situation is to allow a quick score. Great call and better execution. With how our defense was playing, they weren’t going to allow many chunk plays. If Dallas can go 98 yards for a TD, it’s going to take some time.

This exactly. I should have read the whole thread before l posted. Almost verbatim.

[suzzer99]

I think they were better off going for it. Just throw the thing up for grabs at like the 10 yard line and hope they're dumb enough to catch it (assuming our receiver doesn't).

A first down wins the game outright. We can drain basically all the time. A field goal or pooch punt gives them the ball back down two scores with 2:40 left regardless of the outcome. A missed field goal is worse field position than an incomplete pass. If a field goal put us up by 3 scores I'd be more for it.

I do think pooch punt was better than field goal. But I still like going for it slightly better.

[Deberg_1990]

Yes. With the way the defense Had been playing, that was absolutely the right decision

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Fishpicker

no. Butker can hit a 50+ yarder.

Well, sure. He absolutely can. However, if he misses the FG, they get the ball on the 42 instead of the 2. That 40 yard spread was bigger than the 3 points, IMO.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I think they were better off going for it. Just throw the thing up for grabs at like the 10 yard line and hope they're dumb enough to catch it (assuming our receiver doesn't).

A first down wins the game outright. We can drain basically all the time. A field goal or pooch punt gives them the ball back down two scores with 2:40 left regardless of the outcome. A missed field goal is worse field position than an incomplete pass. If a field goal put us up by 3 scores I'd be more for it.

I do think pooch punt was better than field goal. But I still like going for it slightly better.

Yes.

My answer changes if a FG takes us from up 14 to up 17. Or hell, even from up 13 to up 16 - now they'd need 2 TDs AND two 2-pt conversions to tie.

But going from 10 to 13 just doesn't do much for me. Gimme the field position that is going to burn the clock down to the 2-minute warning before they get back to where we kicked it from. Once that punt was downed at the 2, the game was over. It might as well have been a touchdown.