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Old 01-03-2022, 06:20 PM  
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Reid is a terrible chess player

Andy Reid is apparently incapable of thinking several moves ahead. As an NFL head coach, he should have been able to quickly think through what he would have done if he had the ball at the goal line in a tie game with 2:30 to go and 4 downs to score. He should have been able to easily deduce that he would do exactly what Cincinnati did. But he didn't. And that's absolutely incredible.

Sadly, it's clear that he has no idea that his drop dead core philosophy should be, "If you're going to beat me, it's not going to be because my best player was standing on the sidelines, it's going to be because you stopped him while he was on the field."

Because Reid could not bring himself to do what was necessary - in other words, to let the other team score - to get his best player back on the field with time on the clock to win the game, he permitted Cincinnati to win that game. It was HIS failure and his alone.

It's not a question of not competing on defense if you let the other team score. It's a question of what in that situation is your best chance to win. And the Chiefs' best chance to win wasn't to stop Cincinnati. They were going to score. The question was how much time - if any - would be on the clock with they did. The Chiefs' best chance to win was to get Mahomes back on the field as fast as possible, no matter the cost.

No matter how big a steaming pile of dogsh*t the officials were, no matter how stupid Spagnuolo was in how he failed to stop Chase, no matter the holding call on the kick return touchdown or Tyreke dropping the ball in the first half...everything comes down to Reid's lack of a philosophy that says if he's going to lose, it's not going to be with his best guy standing on the sidelines.

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Old 01-03-2022, 06:34 PM   #16
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Old 01-03-2022, 06:35 PM   #17
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Old 01-03-2022, 06:35 PM   #18
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Does that site have an Andy Reid dedicated thread?
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Old 01-03-2022, 06:35 PM   #19
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Old 01-03-2022, 06:38 PM   #20
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Old 01-03-2022, 06:38 PM   #21
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It's instructive that not a single reply has refuted a thing I wrote, but at best suggested that Reid is above criticism.
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Old 01-03-2022, 06:40 PM   #22
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Does Reid make the defensive calls? Was he the one that left Chase in single coverage all game long?

Let's just assume Reid does what you say. They score and go up 7. Our chances of victory are STILL pretty low due to the need to go down and tie the game, win the coin toss (cause losing the coin toss loses the game), and scoring a TD on the first possession of OT.

As soon as Cincinnati got down to the 1 inside the 2 minute warning, we were already ****ed. We should have never been put in that situation in the first place.
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Old 01-03-2022, 06:42 PM   #23
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It's instructive that not a single reply has refuted a thing I wrote, but at best suggested that Reid is above criticism.
Wan this, Dave.
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Old 01-03-2022, 06:43 PM   #24
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Does Reid make the defensive calls? Was he the one that left Chase in single coverage all game long?

Let's just assume Reid does what you say. They score and go up 7. Our chances of victory are STILL pretty low due to the need to go down and tie the game, win the coin toss (cause losing the coin toss loses the game), and scoring a TD on the first possession of OT.

As soon as Cincinnati got down to the 1 inside the 2 minute warning, we were already ****ed. We should have never been put in that situation in the first place.
But the Chiefs WERE in that situation, so then the question becomes what is your best chance to win. And the answer is simple. You get the ball back in the hands of the best player on the field with as much time as you can. The answer isn't to hope your defense keeps Cincinnati from scoring 7 or 3. They were going to score, one way or another.
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Wan this, Dave.
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Old 01-03-2022, 06:44 PM   #26
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So the guys who is thought of as one of the top five coaches of all time... isn't a good coach? That's quite a take.
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Clearly, you'd rather lose with Mahomes standing on the sidelines than give him the chance to go tie or win the game with a couple of minutes left on the game clock.

Absolute insanity.
I agree with you, but there is already a thread about all of this. At least two actually.
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Old 01-03-2022, 06:44 PM   #28
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Let's assume you are right about this. And to be fair, you totally make a reasonable case and lots of people here sympathize with this post.

Who cares? What should the Chiefs do? Fire him?

Does periodically managing the clock in less-than-ideal fashion totally invalidate and overwhelm all the other good he does as a (HOF) head coach (that has led us to 3 straight AFCCGs and a SB title)?

No. So this post is about as worthwhile as the one that said Hill needs to catch the ball more with his hands.

Yes, that's great and all. But do you have a better alternative at WR?

No. No. And hell no. So shut the **** up with these dumb threads.
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It's instructive that not a single reply has refuted a thing I wrote, but at best suggested that Reid is above criticism.
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It's instructive that not a single reply has refuted a thing I wrote, but at best suggested that Reid is above criticism.
More advice is needed, assuming you lurked before posting, right? You know this is a tough place to post for noobs. Expect some shit until you prove yourself. You don’t want to go through that, you’re not going to last.
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