Chiefs Takeaways from the 2021 season. - Page 2

Wallcrawler · 01-31-2022, 11:53 PM

After taking some time to decompress, and come to grips with the Chiefs season ending, these are my takeaways after a great season that came up just short of another Superbowl trip.

1. The Chiefs need a true running back.

RB by committee is terrible. Clyde unfortunately isn't the guy. The last time Patrick and Andy had a stud rb, Patrick Mahomes was the league mvp. Dropping 8, shell coverage, none of that works if you have a rb to punish it. We have the line to run behind. We just need the runner.

2. The O line rebuild was a phenomenal success. Holy shit can you name a team that rebuilt an entire unit in one off-season and it worked this well? This was absolutely a championship o line.

3. The 25% of the cap D Line was a major failure. We brought Frank in on a ludicrous deal and followed it up with a massive overpay on Chris Jones. 28th in the league in sacks and pretty leaky against the run, sure as hell didn't get what we paid for. Oh, and Chris Jones? It's been 10 postseason games. Still no sacks big guy.

4. Mahomes has spoiled Chiefs fans. The man set the bar so high that anything less than absolute elite perfection sees him absolutely shredded by fans and media alike. Even with all he's done, the kid is still human. He's not gonna win every superbowl every year. When he doesn't, it doesn't make him any less awesome. In a so called down year, where he was referred to as a "Broken" qb, he still put up numbers most of the leagues starters would cut their left nut off for and went to OT in his fourth straight AFC title game. The kid has never finished a season without getting this far.

5. Andy is still gonna Andy on the biggest stage. He's too old and set in his ways to change now. Whatever improvements are made to the roster, we have to try to get players to play well enough that these situations either do not manifest at all, or become irrelevant when they do. At the very least, we need to hope that in the next big game, Andy doesn't do his best Brandon Staley impersonation and give his kicker the double bird on the way to 0 points. If we could void Andy's authority to use timeouts as well, we could only improve and be better for it.

6. The 17th game and expanded playoffs are shit. Punishing the 2 seed by taking away a week off and making them play a team that likely doesn't deserve to even be there is terrible. We've seen the sack record tied in the first 17 game season. All records now will have less meaning. Dumb cash grab by the NFL.

7. The future is BRIGHT. I can't wait to see the dead weight cut off this roster, and to see Brett Veach get back to work building this team. The guy operates like me when I'm playing Madden. Huge trades, major roster changes, things you don't usually see. What he did with the o line in one off-season, I'm really excited to see what he can do with this defense, and what new weapons for Patrick he will bring in. I really believe that fixing the run game has to be high on his list, and while rb is never popular, I bet a deal gets made for a true rb to elevate this offense back to when smack a bitch up was running the ball for us. Much as I hate to say it, if we had Kareem Hunt against the Bengals, or any rb like him, we run their asses right out of Arrowhead with a 50 burger to nibble on for the trip home. The Chiefs offense will always be the priority with Mahomes, and with what we've seen from Veach so far, I'm expecting a huge swing at it from him.

I felt after this loss, similar to 2018. Like it's not that bad because I KNOW change is coming and we're going to be back.

We got 2 first year head coaches with their new teams in the AFC West, and that idiot Brandin Staley. So barring injury, the division is as good as ours again. Best time to be a Chiefs fan.

Gary Cooper · 02-01-2022, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

RB talent or productivity wasn’t the issue vs Cincy.

McKinnon 5.4 yards per carry, CEH 6.0 yards per carry in the game… unfortunately they can’t hand the ball off to themselves and force Andy to actually run it.

True. If we had Derrick Henry, Reid would still go away from the run in key moments. Even with a big lead. Even after a few big runs. He's too stubborn. If the passing game isn't working, he will keep passing until it does.

**Bob Dole** · 02-01-2022, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Look at what Clyde has.

Punishing o line? Check.

Receivers that must be accounted for? Check.

Qb that can punish 8 man front? Check.

Virtually every look Clyde has see, has been a defense BEGGING to be beaten by the run instead of by Mahomes. But this guy goes 2 yards into the centers ass and falls down on most plays.

A true running back, and God knows I hate bringing up Kareem Hunt, but he's the easiest comparison, because everyone here watched Kareem run. Kareem Hunt isn't the best back in football. He doesn't even start for his team, but he knows how to be an NFL running back.

ANY back that has vision, and is a strong runner, like Kareem Hunt, would absolutely have the rushing title against these looks this season.

Imagine Jonathan Taylor, Nick Chubb, any of these 25-30 carry a game capable running backs against these shell coverages.

You get the 2018 Chiefs offense. You play back, we run it down your throat. You come up, Patrick goes for 400 and 3+ td.

The run game is the most important fix for us right now. Gotta believe Veach has seen the failed experiment with Clyde. Against these looks and you're still mediocre?

Clyde wouldn't even start on another team.

Did Clyde screw your sister?

I’m pretty sure you need to run the ball to get rushing yards.

RunKC · 02-01-2022, 09:50 AM

One thing I have really liked about 2021 was our complete rebuild of the LB corps. The future is so bright with Gay and Bolton.

They compliment each other really well

**The Franchise** · 02-01-2022, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Look at what Clyde has.

Punishing o line? Check.

Receivers that must be accounted for? Check.

Qb that can punish 8 man front? Check.

Virtually every look Clyde has see, has been a defense BEGGING to be beaten by the run instead of by Mahomes. But this guy goes 2 yards into the centers ass and falls down on most plays.

A true running back, and God knows I hate bringing up Kareem Hunt, but he's the easiest comparison, because everyone here watched Kareem run. Kareem Hunt isn't the best back in football. He doesn't even start for his team, but he knows how to be an NFL running back.

ANY back that has vision, and is a strong runner, like Kareem Hunt, would absolutely have the rushing title against these looks this season.

Imagine Jonathan Taylor, Nick Chubb, any of these 25-30 carry a game capable running backs against these shell coverages.

You get the 2018 Chiefs offense. You play back, we run it down your throat. You come up, Patrick goes for 400 and 3+ td.

The run game is the most important fix for us right now. Gotta believe Veach has seen the failed experiment with Clyde. Against these looks and you're still mediocre?

Clyde wouldn't even start on another team.

We found Kareem Hunt in the third round. It doesn't have to be a high pick. We just need a tough, stud bell cow running back that Patrick will not feel is a wasted play to go ahead and hand off on those RPO's.

Lot of these RPO's turn into passes because Pat sees what we see. 2 yards and fall down, or keep, scramble, make a play.

Getting a rb that Mahomes trusts to run is going to be huge.

The one thing that he doesn't have is a HC that will run the ball with any consistency.

smithandrew051 · 02-01-2022, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

One thing I have really liked about 2021 was our complete rebuild of the LB corps. The future is so bright with Gay and Bolton.

They compliment each other really well

Yeah, that’s an underrated part of Veach’s work.

It’s really nice to know that we’re pretty well set at several positions. OL and LB probably just need a cheap vet. Same with TE (someone like Bell).

Even CB can be okay if we just re-sign Ward.

You have to assume that the offseason will be dedicated to S, DL, WR depth (a true #2), and maybe another RB.

smithandrew051 · 02-01-2022, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

The one thing that he doesn't have is a HC that will run the ball with any consistency.

I’ve come to terms with this fact.

I don’t want to see us make any major investment in the RB position, because I’m afraid it’ll just be wasted.

If we won’t use them when effective, why invest more than a mid-late pick?

Molitoth · 02-01-2022, 10:31 AM

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1. The Chiefs need a true running back.

RB by committee is terrible. Clyde unfortunately isn't the guy. The last time Patrick and Andy had a stud rb, Patrick Mahomes was the league mvp. Dropping 8, shell coverage, none of that works if you have a rb to punish it. We have the line to run behind. We just need the runner.

I SOOOO disagree for these reasons:

1) Andy doesn't want to run the ball. Investing big Money here is a ****ing waste.
2) What more does Gore and McKinnon have to show you that they can be successful? The Chiefs run the ball very well, they just REFUSE to ****ing run it. Even CEH has looked good since coming back from injury.

staylor26 · 02-01-2022, 10:33 AM

My takeaway is that this team blew a huge opportunity at getting their 2nd SB ring in 3 years.

Complete and utter failure.

And I probably won’t get over it until they win another.

AdolfOliverBush · 02-01-2022, 10:35 AM

8. OC and DC should be gone.
9. Reid needs to give playcalling duties to someone else.

staylor26 · 02-01-2022, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AdolfOliverBush

8. OC and DC should be gone.
9. Reid needs to give playcalling duties to someone else.

****ing stupid.

AdolfOliverBush · 02-01-2022, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

****ing stupid.

So you're cool with a DC whose defenses routinely suck ass for at least half the season, and an OC who isn't really an OC at all?

Chiefspants · 02-01-2022, 11:09 AM

We'll be back and I couldn't be happier to be a fan of this team. I believe in Patrick, in Andy, and in KC.

It's gonna be awesome, dudes.

LiveSteam · 02-01-2022, 11:12 AM

At some point Pat has to address his beta brother and gold digger of a woman
Those 2 are a stain on Pat and the franchise he plays for.

I hate them both

King_Chief_Fan · 02-01-2022, 11:36 AM

As long as Andy and Bieniemy are here, what is this team going to do with a different RB?

Clyde and Derek were averaging close to 7 yds per carry Sunday in first half.

In the second half of playoffs the run was abandoned.

Wallcrawler · 02-01-2022, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Did Clyde screw your sister?

I’m pretty sure you need to run the ball to get rushing yards.

Oh. My bad. I went back and watched 2018 over, and saw that Kareem Hunt led the league in rushing without us running the football.

Sorry.

Sorry.

01-31-2022, 11:53 PM
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $2212912	Takeaways from the 2021 season. After taking some time to decompress, and come to grips with the Chiefs season ending, these are my takeaways after a great season that came up just short of another Superbowl trip. 1. The Chiefs need a true running back. RB by committee is terrible. Clyde unfortunately isn't the guy. The last time Patrick and Andy had a stud rb, Patrick Mahomes was the league mvp. Dropping 8, shell coverage, none of that works if you have a rb to punish it. We have the line to run behind. We just need the runner. 2. The O line rebuild was a phenomenal success. Holy shit can you name a team that rebuilt an entire unit in one off-season and it worked this well? This was absolutely a championship o line. 3. The 25% of the cap D Line was a major failure. We brought Frank in on a ludicrous deal and followed it up with a massive overpay on Chris Jones. 28th in the league in sacks and pretty leaky against the run, sure as hell didn't get what we paid for. Oh, and Chris Jones? It's been 10 postseason games. Still no sacks big guy. 4. Mahomes has spoiled Chiefs fans. The man set the bar so high that anything less than absolute elite perfection sees him absolutely shredded by fans and media alike. Even with all he's done, the kid is still human. He's not gonna win every superbowl every year. When he doesn't, it doesn't make him any less awesome. In a so called down year, where he was referred to as a "Broken" qb, he still put up numbers most of the leagues starters would cut their left nut off for and went to OT in his fourth straight AFC title game. The kid has never finished a season without getting this far. 5. Andy is still gonna Andy on the biggest stage. He's too old and set in his ways to change now. Whatever improvements are made to the roster, we have to try to get players to play well enough that these situations either do not manifest at all, or become irrelevant when they do. At the very least, we need to hope that in the next big game, Andy doesn't do his best Brandon Staley impersonation and give his kicker the double bird on the way to 0 points. If we could void Andy's authority to use timeouts as well, we could only improve and be better for it. 6. The 17th game and expanded playoffs are shit. Punishing the 2 seed by taking away a week off and making them play a team that likely doesn't deserve to even be there is terrible. We've seen the sack record tied in the first 17 game season. All records now will have less meaning. Dumb cash grab by the NFL. 7. The future is BRIGHT. I can't wait to see the dead weight cut off this roster, and to see Brett Veach get back to work building this team. The guy operates like me when I'm playing Madden. Huge trades, major roster changes, things you don't usually see. What he did with the o line in one off-season, I'm really excited to see what he can do with this defense, and what new weapons for Patrick he will bring in. I really believe that fixing the run game has to be high on his list, and while rb is never popular, I bet a deal gets made for a true rb to elevate this offense back to when smack a bitch up was running the ball for us. Much as I hate to say it, if we had Kareem Hunt against the Bengals, or any rb like him, we run their asses right out of Arrowhead with a 50 burger to nibble on for the trip home. The Chiefs offense will always be the priority with Mahomes, and with what we've seen from Veach so far, I'm expecting a huge swing at it from him. I felt after this loss, similar to 2018. Like it's not that bad because I KNOW change is coming and we're going to be back. We got 2 first year head coaches with their new teams in the AFC West, and that idiot Brandin Staley. So barring injury, the division is as good as ours again. Best time to be a Chiefs fan.
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