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Old 11-17-2022, 08:12 AM  
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Chris Simms: "JuJu's Injury is Patrick Mahomes Fault"


Around the 0:30 and 3:30 mark. This is quite a wild take from Chris Simms, victim blaming Mahomes for throwing to the open receiver.
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:43 AM   #16
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I think this OP's thread title is a little misleading.

Simms is saying this is normal football and it was a normal hard hit. He's saying Cisco isn't to blame and if it's anyone's fault it's Mahomes for where he put the ball by throwing into a tight window.

It's a little different than just saying, "JuJu got hurt because of Mahomes."
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:43 AM   #17
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When you look at the replay in slo-mo, it validates Simms' point. But I wouldn't go so far as to call it Mahomes' fault. It was just a freak play that happened, that's all there is to it. JuJu didn't have time to look at the safety closing in. Everything happened so fast. When Pat threw the ball, Cisco was a couple of yards distance. Nobody could've anticipated that play to turn as violent as it did.
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:44 AM   #18
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The safety made a good play off the deeper WR there, but he did lead him into some danger. It happens I guess, but I would imagine even Pat would say he has some blame there.
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:44 AM   #19
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I like Simms but this is perhaps his dumbest take. Just total f**king bull****. F**k Cisco as well.
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:45 AM   #20
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I didn't put the JJSS injury on PM.

He did hang MVS out, though. That one was a throw that's gonna get your WR blasted more often than it doesn't; high and away from his body.
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:45 AM   #21
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He's not wrong. Mahomes has to see that safety waiting to blow up his receiver. Mahomes is usually great about knowing where the defenders are and not setting his receiver up for a hit but he's not perfect. Watching the replay the first time, I thought the same thing.
Pat usually never throws hospital passes. And at the time of release, Juju is open. If Cisco stuck him in the body are on the ball, I wouldn't be upset with the play. But the dude aimed for the shoulder/head, and then lead with his helmet on the MVS hit.

**** Cisco.
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:45 AM   #22
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I think this OP's thread title is a little misleading.

Simms is saying this is normal football and it was a normal hard hit. He's saying Cisco isn't to blame and if it's anyone's fault it's Mahomes for where he put the ball by throwing into a tight window.

It's a little different than just saying, "JuJu got hurt because of Mahomes."
It wasn't really a tight window though. Look at the screenshot Run posted - the player that made the hit was actually engaged with another receiver at the point the ball was thrown.
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:46 AM   #23
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The MVS ball I think was a hospital ball but I don’t think any QB sees that defender or doesn’t throw that ball to juju .
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:46 AM   #24
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I think this OP's thread title is a little misleading.

Simms is saying this is normal football and it was a normal hard hit. He's saying Cisco isn't to blame and if it's anyone's fault it's Mahomes for where he put the ball by throwing into a tight window.

It's a little different than just saying, "JuJu got hurt because of Mahomes."
Correct take. But then people can't shit their pants in anger and talk about how Simms is a douchebag just one week after praising his analysis when he said something they liked about our beloved Chiefs and/or PMII.
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Old 11-17-2022, 08:47 AM   #25
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It wasn't really a tight window though. Look at the screenshot Run posted - the player that made the hit was actually engaged with another receiver at the point the ball was thrown.
It was a tight enough window that it ended with JuJu getting a concussion?
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It was a tight enough window that it ended with JuJu getting a concussion?
The defender made a really good play to get off of his assignment quickly. Mahomes had no way of knowing he was going to do it that fast. Again, look at the screenshot. There's NO WAY this is on Mahomes.
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It's plainly obvious he wasn't trying to actually tackle anybody. Look at his arms in this photo of the hit on MVS.



EDIT: Just realized Cisco isn't in this picture (I think he's #23). Weird.
No, you were correct, that is Cisco. His number is 5.
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The defender made a really good play to get off of his assignment quickly. Mahomes had no way of knowing he was going to do it that fast. Again, look at the screenshot. There's NO WAY this is on Mahomes.
Screen shots are very dubious to use for this. I don't care for them TBH. Screenshots of a moving environment just don't tell us much.
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No, you were correct, that is Cisco. His number is 5.
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