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Old 01-08-2023, 03:29 PM  
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Watson vs Wilson - which was the worst trade and sign?

Watson trade

Browns received

Serial sexual assaulter- 27 yr old Deshaun Watson and then signed him to 5 yr/$230 mil fully guaranteed contract

2024 6th round pick

Texans received

2022 1st round pick 13th overall
2023 1st round pick ~12th overall
2024 1st round pick
2022 4th round pick 107th overall
2023 3rd round pick
2024 4th round pick

Wilson trade

Broncos receive

The chef - 34 year old Russell Wilson and sign him to a 5 yr/$242 million $161 million guaranteed

2022 4th rounder

Seahawks receive

QB Drew Lock
DT Shelby Harris
TE Noah Fant
2022 first round pick 9th overall
2022 second round pick 40th overall
2022 fifth round pick
2023 first round pick 3rd overall
2023 second round pick

Personally I think the Wilson trade was worse based on his age and what he had been doing in previous seasons. Plus they gave up a pick that would net a QBOTF possibly. The only thing that makes this close is Watson is a piece of trash human and Cleveland gave up 3 1st round picks.

I couldn't be happier for Denver or Cleveland, though.
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Old 01-08-2023, 04:46 PM   #16
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Watson for me.

You leave Wilson alone with your teenage daughter the biggest threat is him trying to rap to her about the dangers of premarital sex.
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Old 01-08-2023, 04:46 PM   #17
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Watson is worse, they gave up more than 3 first round picks, AND his whole deal is fully guaranteed.

And people with his sort of off the field issues don’t just knock it off. They are what they are.
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Old 01-08-2023, 04:46 PM   #18
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I'll say, it's taking Watson long enough. Guy acts like he's only had 4 months of prep to get ready to play, and he's still ass. Not like he doesn't have a top-10 defense, a top-5 OL, a top-3 rushing attack, and a top-5 receiving corps.
Top 5 receiving corp? Definitely not. More like a top 25 receiving corp.
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Old 01-08-2023, 04:47 PM   #19
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I really do not understand why people think Watson is anywhere near an elite QB.

Dude threw 50/50 balls to Hopkins for the most part. I don't see anything special there. I mean, Daunte Culpepper threw 50/50 balls to Randy Moss, and then was pretty forgettable when that wasn't an option anymore.

And Watson is a serial sexual assaulter, which has alienated a good chunk of what has been a very loyal and dedicated fanbase. If I was a Cleveland fan, I'd be furious, disheartened, and probably just not watch NFL football anymore.

I have several Ohio friends that feel that way.

So I say Watson is the worst deal. What a slap in the face to all Browns fans. Hadn't they suffered enough?

**** that guy.
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Old 01-08-2023, 04:49 PM   #20
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I really do not understand why people think Watson is anywhere near an elite QB.

Dude threw 50/50 balls to Hopkins for the most part. I don't see anything special there. I mean, Daunte Culpepper threw 50/50 balls to Randy Moss, and then was pretty forgettable when that wasn't an option anymore.

And Watson is a serial sexual assaulter, which has alienated a good chunk of what has been a very loyal and dedicated fanbase. If I was a Cleveland fan, I'd be furious, disheartened, and probably just not watch NFL football anymore.

I have several Ohio friends that feel that way.

So I say Watson is the worst deal. What a slap in the face to all Browns fans. Hadn't they suffered enough?

**** that guy.
Yeah. The cost to the organization in local goodwill, pride, and team identification will have a broad impact.
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Old 01-08-2023, 04:50 PM   #21
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Don't turn your back to Dak. His suckage is kinda being overlooked.
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Old 01-08-2023, 04:53 PM   #22
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Old 01-08-2023, 04:56 PM   #23
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Top 5 receiving corp? Definitely not. More like a top 25 receiving corp.
i don't know exactly where they rank, but they have Amari Cooper, true WR1 (thought to be a top 3 WR just a season or two ago), David Njoku (top-15 TE), Chubb/Hunt out of the backfield, and DPJ is apparently having a JJSS type of season. That's top-10-15 at least? it's a pretty good receiving group regardless.
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Old 01-08-2023, 05:01 PM   #24
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its tough and i picked watson, but the watson trade does have a slightly better chance of turning out ok for cleveland whereas denver is inarguably ****ed for a decade
Well said, and I think they were both awesome trades for my favorite team, the Kansas City Chiefs!
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**** that. Either is a death sentence. I'll go coach Eastern Uganda State.
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Both equally bad, but Wilson is worse only because Watson is a few years younger and it’s still possible that he might improve, although I highly doubt it. Nobody gets better by going to Cleveland.
This. You wonder if Watson is this bad because he’s rusty and needs time to get ready. Given his age and his time off, I think the odds of Watson improving are better than the odds of Wilson improving, although not by a great deal. Thus, I’d have to say the Wilson trade is a worse trade. But again, this the difference is not much.

Cleveland has always been a shot show. Can’t say I’m surprised at what they did. Denver, though, Denver has been a pretty well run franchise. I’m surprised they screwed up this badly.
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I really do not understand why people think Watson is anywhere near an elite QB.

Dude threw 50/50 balls to Hopkins for the most part. I don't see anything special there. I mean, Daunte Culpepper threw 50/50 balls to Randy Moss, and then was pretty forgettable when that wasn't an option anymore.

And Watson is a serial sexual assaulter, which has alienated a good chunk of what has been a very loyal and dedicated fanbase. If I was a Cleveland fan, I'd be furious, disheartened, and probably just not watch NFL football anymore.

I have several Ohio friends that feel that way.

So I say Watson is the worst deal. What a slap in the face to all Browns fans. Hadn't they suffered enough?

**** that guy.
I am definitely not one of those people that think Watson is elite. I even made a thread about it like 2 years ago.

https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=334613
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both are terrible but edge to Wilson because he's in a division with Mahomes and Herbert so theres no chance the broncos sniff the playoffs until they get that albatross off their neck
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both are terrible but edge to Wilson because he's in a division with Mahomes and Herbert so theres no chance the broncos sniff the playoffs until they get that albatross off their neck
I mean the AFCN isn't much easier
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If Denver had a coach that knew how to run a training camp and practice, Wilson would have been solid this year.

Once you saw week 1 versus Seattle and the next two Bronco games, you could just tell it was like they were not prepared.

If Denver gets a coach that know how to prepare a team, I think Wilson will be decent, but not elite.

Both of those trades and long term deals are bad.
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