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O.city · 02-09-2023, 09:45 AM

#Commanders DE Chase Young, former 2nd overall pick in the 2020 Draft, isn't guaranteed to have his 5th-year option picked up by the team, according to @michaelpRTD

The option is worth $17.4 million.

Young has only 1.5 sacks the past 2 seasons, and missed games due to injuries pic.twitter.com/0rY7DMhfBM
— Dov Kleiman (@NFL_DovKleiman) February 9, 2023

Say they don't wanna pick up his option and have decided to keep Sweat and Payne and move Young.

Would you send our first this year and a 2nd next year for that?

duncan_idaho · 02-09-2023, 10:32 AM

That's the type of move you explore and try to find a way to make it work.

Up to and including potentially using Orlando Brown as a trade return for them.

O.city · 02-09-2023, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Spags loves the guy. We just had this conversation last year and everyone hated it and now look at the results? I just don’t think they’re gonna let him go yet.

Also, I don’t want this guy unless it’s a small contract on a heavily incentivized contract. He’s never played a full season. He’s only played in 12 games the last 2 years as well.

Yikes

You want a blue chip rusher, this is an avenue to get it. Yeah, the injuries could be an issue, I don't think I'd give up multiple high picks.

You'd have him for 3 years for about 40 million dollars I believe. That's pretty good for a guy that was just believed to be on track as one of the best pass rushers in the league.

RunKC · 02-09-2023, 10:34 AM

They could have literally cut him last year like Dirty Dan and Matheiu…but they didn’t. Seems like he’s one of Spags guys.

Nobody liked it when we brought him back this year and yet he’s been worth the money due to postseason play.

Maybe I’m wrong but I’ll believe it when I see it at this point

**The Franchise** · 02-09-2023, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

They could have literally cut him last year like Dirty Dan and Matheiu…but they didn’t. Seems like he’s one of Spags guys.

Nobody liked it when we brought him back this year and yet he’s been worth the money due to postseason play.

Maybe I’m wrong but I’ll believe it when I see it at this point

They could have cut him....sure. But they also knew that relying on Kaindoh and Herring would be a disaster.

O.city · 02-09-2023, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

That's the type of move you explore and try to find a way to make it work.

Up to and including potentially using Orlando Brown as a trade return for them.

I don't think they'll take a chance on losing their LT. That would fill the DE hole, but open the LT hole.

RunKC · 02-09-2023, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

They could have cut him....sure. But they also knew that relying on Kaindoh and Herring would be a disaster.

That’s true. But Chase Young is a brokedick. This guy is a bigger Dee Ford.he’s been hurt every year. I mean damn man. These guys don’t get healthier as time goes by.

We drafted Dee Ford knowing he had a back injury…and his back ****ed him up and he became a broke dick.

Teams like the Broncos paid Randy Gregory and Ronaldo Darby, who were both broke dicks, and yup…they turned out to continue to be broke dicks.

I get the sentiment bc Chase was highly thought of but that was 3 years ago.

**The Franchise** · 02-09-2023, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

That’s true. But Chase Young is a brokedick. This guy is a bigger Dee Ford.he’s been hurt every year. I mean damn man. These guys don’t get healthier as time goes by.

We drafted Dee Ford knowing he had a back injury…and his back ****ed him up and he became a broke dick.

Teams like the Broncos paid Randy Gregory and Ronaldo Darby, who were both broke dicks, and yup…they turned out to continue to be broke dicks.

I get the sentiment bc Chase was highly thought of but that was 3 years ago.

He tore his ACL. It's not like he's had back issues his entire career.

O.city · 02-09-2023, 10:51 AM

He was good last year and tore his ACL in week 10. Of course he missed time.

He's also 23.

kccrow · 02-09-2023, 10:57 AM

A 1st and 2nd? No way I'd offer that. I'll give them a 3rd and a bag of chips for the right to take the chance this guy will get healthy.

O.city · 02-09-2023, 10:59 AM

He tore his ACL and Patellar tendon in week 10 of 21

Am I missing another injury?

duncan_idaho · 02-09-2023, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

A 1st and 2nd? No way I'd offer that. I'll give them a 3rd and a bag of chips for the right to take the chance this guy will get healthy.

That seems about right to me. It's an interesting risk at that point.

O.city · 02-09-2023, 11:11 AM

Ok, so my 1 and a 2 is too much. Noted.

But for a 3? Shit yeah, you do that deal immediately.

Couch-Potato · 02-09-2023, 04:52 PM

How good is he, when healthy?

9 sacks over 3 years and only 1.5 the last two?

I'm not sold.

DJ's left nut · 02-09-2023, 05:55 PM

Didn't even have to click on the thread to know we were trading our first and second round picks.

Dante84 · 02-09-2023, 06:04 PM

Our late 2nd round pick for 3 rookie contract / franchise years of a (hopefully healthy) Chase Young? Yeah, you do that in a ****ing heartbeat. Especially when we still have a bunch of picks, albeit mostly late picks.

Our hit rate in last year's draft allows us to gamble a bit on a player of that caliber.

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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-695936	He tore his ACL and Patellar tendon in week 10 of 21 Am I missing another injury?
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