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Old 06-22-2023, 12:20 PM  
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Do Black Holes even exist?

Apparently there's a physicist who has mathematically proven that black holes don't exist. Interesting if true.

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Old 06-22-2023, 03:22 PM   #16
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Old 06-22-2023, 03:40 PM   #17
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Old 06-22-2023, 04:51 PM   #18
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Old 06-22-2023, 05:17 PM   #19
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Old 06-22-2023, 05:34 PM   #20
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Old 06-22-2023, 07:32 PM   #21
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Old 06-22-2023, 08:55 PM   #25
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Old 06-22-2023, 09:02 PM   #26
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Didn't realize that. Thanks for pointing it out. The article I saw was just published.
I read most of it but it's doesn't sound like it's refuting the existence of a phenomenon. It sounds like it's saying how we classify it is wrong and we don't really understand it.
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Old 06-22-2023, 11:29 PM   #27
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Old 06-22-2023, 11:50 PM   #28
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I read most of it but it's doesn't sound like it's refuting the existence of a phenomenon. It sounds like it's saying how we classify it is wrong and we don't really understand it.
My understanding would half agree wIth you. As I understand it, she’s agreeing with the general understanding of a star collapse. Current theory is that as a star dies, it collapses on itself to become extremely dense, dense to the point that not even light escapes it. She agrees with the process of the star collapse but she argues that as the star collapses, it sheds mass via radiation, which answers an anomaly we have not understood about black holes. Nobody doubts they emit massive radiation but there was not a way to reconcile the apparent diminution of the star with Einstein’s theory that matter is neither lost nor destroyed but that it assumes another form.

So she’s not disputing collapsing stars but she says the math shows the mass “lost” from the collapse is not because the collapsing star becomes so dense but rather that the mass is converted into radiation. This massive emission of radiation explains why astronomers can’t see anything - there’s nothing to see because it’s been converted to energy.

But, I freely admit I’m no astro physicist. I could be mis-understanding her point. It is certainly far afield from what I normally study. What I find interesting is that even “settled” science isn’t so settled, so, I posted it here. Glad some are reading and responding to this. Thank you for an intelligent response.
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