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Old 08-25-2023, 09:05 AM  
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Why the Chiefs will pay a lot for Chris Jones
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Old 08-25-2023, 09:24 AM   #16
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Bill was the master at having the greatest qb of all time

Once that ended we see what he’s the master of
I agree. Veach/Andy are also benefiting from having Mahomes.
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Old 08-25-2023, 09:24 AM   #17
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If contracts were handed out for past performance rather than future projections, this article would make a lot of sense. The issue isn't a question of his performance last year (or even this year) - it's a question of the 3-4 years after that.
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Old 08-25-2023, 09:26 AM   #18
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LOL. Drafting well also means you have to eventually pay that talent. Bill was the master at knowing when to move on from a player.

And Jones has been paid handsomely and is scheduled for it again this season.
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Old 08-25-2023, 09:27 AM   #19
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If contracts were handed out for past performance rather than future projections, this article would make a lot of sense. The issue isn't a question of his performance last year (or even this year) - it's a question of the 3-4 years after that.
If he indeed is the unicorn the article says he is, the next 3 years shouldn't be an issue.

I guess we will see if Veach and co agree or disagree though.
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Old 08-25-2023, 09:28 AM   #20
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I agree. Veach/Andy are also benefiting from having Mahomes.
Andy went to 4 NFC champ games and a SB without a HOF all time qb.

There's someone benefitting from someone, I'm not sure it's one way or the other.
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Old 08-25-2023, 09:31 AM   #22
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If contracts were handed out for past performance rather than future projections, this article would make a lot of sense. The issue isn't a question of his performance last year (or even this year) - it's a question of the 3-4 years after that.

This + how the hell are we going to extend Bolton Gay Sneed Smith Creed when the time comes? This team is stacked with super stars and if they cave to Jones then more players will likely hold out. Brenda Veach needs to cover her ass on contracts . Didn't Dorsey get fired for irresponsible contracts?
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Andy went to 4 NFC champ games and a SB without a HOF all time qb.

There's someone benefitting from someone, I'm not sure it's one way or the other.
I would agree. I would go so far as to say that if Andy gets 2 more SB wins, he surpasses Bill as the GOAT. Bill's record without Brady is a joke. 7 losing seasons out of 10.
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This + how the hell are we going to extend Bolton Gay Sneed Smith Creed when the time comes? This team is stacked with super stars and if they cave to Jones then more players will likely hold out. Brenda Veach needs to cover her ass on contracts . Didn't Dorsey get fired for irresponsible contracts?
They'll keep 2 of those 4 whether they sign JOnes or not.
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Talks about how dominant he was and is
Paying for past production vs future value is the key.

The only DT in the top five of AAV salary who is older than 26 years old is Aaron Donald and his contract extension already looks like a disaster.
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If he indeed is the unicorn the article says he is, the next 3 years shouldn't be an issue.

I guess we will see if Veach and co agree or disagree though.
Veach seems to believe so but he's most likely set a line that he can't go beyond in order to pay others. There's paying a really good salary and then there's paying insane money.

Veach doesn't want to pay insane money nor should he
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Link to Article: https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/08/25/wh...le-chris-jones
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I would agree. I would go so far as to say that if Andy gets 2 more SB wins, he surpasses Bill as the GOAT. Bill's record without Brady is a joke. 7 losing seasons out of 10.
Yeah, the longer he goes without Brady, the harder it is to justify him as the GOAT coach. 7 losing seasons in 10 isn't a fluke.

Unfortunately think a lot of it is due to his own hubris. On full display when he hires Matt Patricia to run his offense AFTER he's shown his ass to the entire NFL and unsurprisingly it fails miserably. Reid isn't immune from that either, hiring Castillo to be his DC when his only experience had been on the offensive side.
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Link to Article: https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/08/25/wh...le-chris-jones
We already did that in 2020.
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We already did that in 2020.
Yeah, and he got better.
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