Chiefs A Level Headed Review Week 2 2023 - Page 2

DenverChief · 09-17-2023, 03:33 PM

1. Chris Jones return was huge for the Defense. 1.5 Sacks, 2 QB Hits and 1 Pass Defensed. FAU, Danna and Karlaftis showed up huge in QB sacks and pressures. Lawrence was very uncomfortable in the pocket on many drives. Chenal showed up clutch on a few plays most notably not being fooled by the screen pass on 2nd and ten that led to the third and long before Jax turned the ball over on downs.

2. The offense looked much better today, catching the ball, RUNNING THE BALL!. On 3rd and short handing off to Pacheco on the inside rush for a first down instead of trying to be cute. Smash the football down their throat - Pacheco can get you one yard. Toney and Moore atoned for their drops 5/5 for 35 yards and 3/4 for 70 yards and TD respectively. The Jax defense is a good defense, while we didn't play perfect and still have A LOT of room for improvement we definitely ironed out some of the more fixable problems.

3. Jawaan Taylor - this is going to be an ongoing issue with the refs I'm afraid - PTW seemed solid in relief. I'm not sure what to do here bench him and play PTW? Try and trade him? I don't know what the answer is - if he can't figure out his alignment and make his kick out closer to the snap - we can't keep hurting our offense with silly penalties.

4. Travis didn't quite seem himself today - I'm sure the knee is still bothering him. But a hobbled Travis is still better than no Travis.....just like Mahomes. Mahomes on one leg is still a damn good QB. Hopefully he can get healed fast. We are going to need him at 100% to get our offense fully back on track. Love the Kelce punt out of the end zone after his TD. Classic Travis.

5. Pacheco looked like Pacheco again 12 Carries for 70 Yards and 5.8 yd average. I love his running style and that 31 yard rip was a thing of beauty. I just wish he could have put it over the goal at the end of the game for a nice cherry on top of his running day.

6. Justin Watson was clutch again. All this guy does is catch critical passes. Not my favorite WR but he I is definitely a lunch pail guy ready to work. His fumble was just good work on the DB part.

7. I do feel like everyone is still running in sand - there is just no explosiveness yet - not sure if it's still knocking the rust off of the offseason or what. I would expect next week we will see a much more crisp game with our offense. This would have technically been week 1 this week.

8.The James fumble. He just lost it in the Sun. Period. That is gonna happen. While I think he needs to improve on offense I'm not worried about his KO/PR skills. Maybe he should have let it go IDK but is Toub is worried about it I'll let him address it.

Otter · 09-17-2023, 04:04 PM

I'm not feeling the Toney confidence. Drop, catch, hurt. Rinse and repeat.
Chris Jones was impressive. Dude hit the gym.
The announcers and refs were cringy.
Happy Birthday to the best QB in the world.

Shag · 09-17-2023, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DenverChief

4. Travis didn't quite seem himself today - I'm sure the knee is still bothering him. But a hobbled Travis is still better than no Travis.....just like Mahomes. Mahomes on one leg is still a damn good QB. Hopefully he can get healed fast. We are going to need him at 100% to get our offense fully back on track. Love the Kelce punt out of the end zone after his TD. Classic Travis.

2 drops, 2 personal fouls - Kelce needs to get his shit together. He'll be fine, but today was not a good debut to 2023.

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6. Justin Watson was clutch again. All this guy does is catch critical passes. Not my favorite WR but he I is definitely a lunch pail guy ready to work. His fumble was just good work on the DB part.

3/62 and lost fumble is clutch?

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8.The James fumble. He just lost it in the Sun. Period. That is gonna happen. While I think he needs to improve on offense I'm not worried about his KO/PR skills. Maybe he should have let it go IDK but is Toub is worried about it I'll let him address it.

James doesn't seem to have a place on this team. He's showing no explosiveness on returns, and invisible on offense. A major disappointment so far.

I'm not super worried about the squad at this point, but this is anything but "level headed" - this is rose-colored glasses.

DRM08 · 09-17-2023, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bobbything

I don’t like complaining about officiating but the only thing that bothers me is that this was a non-issue (this year and last year) with Taylor until Collinsworthless complained about it for three straight hours. He clearly had never seen Taylor before because I remember thinking they were false starts every time last year. Not a peep out of the media until he came to KC.

Drives me crazy.

That’s the worst thing about NBC’s coverage. They were there for the Playoff game last year when Taylor was false starting on every play for Jacksonville. Collinsworth and NBC didn’t seem to give a damn at the time.

mschiefs1984 · 09-17-2023, 04:07 PM

Very excited by what I have seen from this season

I have every reason to think that the offense will get their act together. Just need a little time to work out the kinks with the young WR core. We have seen the defense get better as the season goes and I believe that is what we are going to see from the offense this year.

But that defense. Can't say I saw this coming but they look great. Not allowing a TD against anyone in todays NFL is outstanding. I look forward to seeing more of what they can do. Giving Mahomes a great defense look out NFL

HC_Chief · 09-17-2023, 04:10 PM

Defense with back to back good games. This crew is starting to look scary, and as we know, Spag's defense only improve over the course of the season. I like it!

WRs did better. When did we exchange MVS for Robinson? WTF is with the running backwards after catching the ball shit? Get the first down, go execute on next play.

Kicking game was great. Butkicker is nails, and Tommy is putting on a punting clinic.

Pacheco is the man. Please start using him more.

**Bearcat** · 09-17-2023, 04:11 PM

They'll figure it out with Taylor... if he's really played the same way all his career, it'll take more than a sudden in-game adjustment in an already new offense for him.

I think we often take for granted that the NFL looks like a well-oiled machine at times, but really it's not... and it's often hot garbage. New guys need chemistry, have to adjust to new shit, and preseason obviously isn't enough.

Talking about benching or trading is premature. The entire offense is still trying to figure shit out and there's no reason at this point to assume they won't.

KobesPilot · 09-17-2023, 04:18 PM

Jawaan has had more penalties than any other linemen, this was an achievement he brought to KC. Guarantee this guy ****s up the cruicial play in the playoffs. Surely there is someone better they could get for the same amount of money.

KobesPilot · 09-17-2023, 04:24 PM

Also, nobody talked about Jawaan during the previous season because he played for a shit franchise, he is no longer on a shit franchise. Defending champs have someone on the Oline who gets 4-5 penalties in one game all from him? looks pretty stupid. NFL is a bottom line business it's a miracle this dude has made it this far.

bobbything · 09-17-2023, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KobesPilot

Jawaan has had more penalties than any other linemen, this was an achievement he brought to KC. Guarantee this guy ****s up the cruicial play in the playoffs. Surely there is someone better they could get for the same amount of money.

It was a non-issue until Collinsworth decided it was an issue. Ergo, the league now targets him.

Rasputin · 09-17-2023, 04:27 PM

If we eliminate bad football and play good football we will win more games.

siberian khatru · 09-17-2023, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

If we eliminate bad football and play good football we will win more games.

SCIENCE!

Rainbarrel · 09-17-2023, 04:37 PM

Zay Flowers and Bryan Cook will be on a special Law & Order SVU

DenverChief · 09-17-2023, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King

There's a massive amount of middle ground between allowing a player to have that many penalties and benching the guy.

How about he makes a few small changes and proceeds as the far better option at tackle than the turd you're promoting.

If you're gonna pull this shit every week you'll need to change your thread titles.

Dude put the pipe down. I literally was asking a question. If you re- read the sentence. “What do you if he can’t make the adjustment?” You are jumping way over board on this one. Step away from the keyboard and go get some fresh air.

DenverChief · 09-17-2023, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

They'll figure it out with Taylor... if he's really played the same way all his career, it'll take more than a sudden in-game adjustment in an already new offense for him.

I think we often take for granted that the NFL looks like a well-oiled machine at times, but really it's not... and it's often hot garbage. New guys need chemistry, have to adjust to new shit, and preseason obviously isn't enough.

Talking about benching or trading is premature. The entire offense is still trying to figure shit out and there's no reason at this point to assume they won't.

I don't know what the answer is - if he can't figure out his alignment and make his kick out closer to the snap - we can't keep hurting our offense with silly penalties.

This isn’t a do it today comment. It’s a future can’t fix himself comment.

DenverChief · 09-17-2023, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shag

3/62 and lost fumble is clutch?

James doesn't seem to have a place on this team. He's showing no explosiveness on returns, and invisible on offense. A major disappointment so far.

I'm not super worried about the squad at this point, but this is anything but "level headed" - this is rose-colored glasses.

I was thinking more of:

3rd & 10 at 50
(13:35 - 3rd) (Shotgun) P.Mahomes pass deep left to Ju.Watson to JAX 16 for 34 yards

1st & 10 at KC 25
(13:43 - 4th) (Shotgun) P.Mahomes pass short left to Ju.Watson to KC 40 for 15 yards

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09-17-2023, 03:33 PM
DenverChief Pedantic Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Rocky Ford Casino cash: $3072617	A Level Headed Review Week 2 2023 1. Chris Jones return was huge for the Defense. 1.5 Sacks, 2 QB Hits and 1 Pass Defensed. FAU, Danna and Karlaftis showed up huge in QB sacks and pressures. Lawrence was very uncomfortable in the pocket on many drives. Chenal showed up clutch on a few plays most notably not being fooled by the screen pass on 2nd and ten that led to the third and long before Jax turned the ball over on downs. 2. The offense looked much better today, catching the ball, RUNNING THE BALL!. On 3rd and short handing off to Pacheco on the inside rush for a first down instead of trying to be cute. Smash the football down their throat - Pacheco can get you one yard. Toney and Moore atoned for their drops 5/5 for 35 yards and 3/4 for 70 yards and TD respectively. The Jax defense is a good defense, while we didn't play perfect and still have A LOT of room for improvement we definitely ironed out some of the more fixable problems. 3. Jawaan Taylor - this is going to be an ongoing issue with the refs I'm afraid - PTW seemed solid in relief. I'm not sure what to do here bench him and play PTW? Try and trade him? I don't know what the answer is - if he can't figure out his alignment and make his kick out closer to the snap - we can't keep hurting our offense with silly penalties. 4. Travis didn't quite seem himself today - I'm sure the knee is still bothering him. But a hobbled Travis is still better than no Travis.....just like Mahomes. Mahomes on one leg is still a damn good QB. Hopefully he can get healed fast. We are going to need him at 100% to get our offense fully back on track. Love the Kelce punt out of the end zone after his TD. Classic Travis. 5. Pacheco looked like Pacheco again 12 Carries for 70 Yards and 5.8 yd average. I love his running style and that 31 yard rip was a thing of beauty. I just wish he could have put it over the goal at the end of the game for a nice cherry on top of his running day. 6. Justin Watson was clutch again. All this guy does is catch critical passes. Not my favorite WR but he I is definitely a lunch pail guy ready to work. His fumble was just good work on the DB part. 7. I do feel like everyone is still running in sand - there is just no explosiveness yet - not sure if it's still knocking the rust off of the offseason or what. I would expect next week we will see a much more crisp game with our offense. This would have technically been week 1 this week. 8.The James fumble. He just lost it in the Sun. Period. That is gonna happen. While I think he needs to improve on offense I'm not worried about his KO/PR skills. Maybe he should have let it go IDK but is Toub is worried about it I'll let him address it.
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mschiefs1984 Veteran Join Date: Oct 2013 Casino cash: $3209760	Very excited by what I have seen from this season I have every reason to think that the offense will get their act together. Just need a little time to work out the kinks with the young WR core. We have seen the defense get better as the season goes and I believe that is what we are going to see from the offense this year. But that defense. Can't say I saw this coming but they look great. Not allowing a TD against anyone in todays NFL is outstanding. I look forward to seeing more of what they can do. Giving Mahomes a great defense look out NFL
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09-17-2023, 04:10 PM	#20
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	Defense with back to back good games. This crew is starting to look scary, and as we know, Spag's defense only improve over the course of the season. I like it! WRs did better. When did we exchange MVS for Robinson? WTF is with the running backwards after catching the ball shit? Get the first down, go execute on next play. Kicking game was great. Butkicker is nails, and Tommy is putting on a punting clinic. Pacheco is the man. Please start using him more. __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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09-17-2023, 04:11 PM	#21
Bearcat Would an idiot do that? Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Arizona Casino cash: $-1125069	They'll figure it out with Taylor... if he's really played the same way all his career, it'll take more than a sudden in-game adjustment in an already new offense for him. I think we often take for granted that the NFL looks like a well-oiled machine at times, but really it's not... and it's often hot garbage. New guys need chemistry, have to adjust to new shit, and preseason obviously isn't enough. Talking about benching or trading is premature. The entire offense is still trying to figure shit out and there's no reason at this point to assume they won't. __________________
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KobesPilot Starter Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: Off hwy 101 in Calabasas Casino cash: $-240000	Jawaan has had more penalties than any other linemen, this was an achievement he brought to KC. Guarantee this guy ****s up the cruicial play in the playoffs. Surely there is someone better they could get for the same amount of money.
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09-17-2023, 04:24 PM	#23
KobesPilot Starter Join Date: Mar 2023 Location: Off hwy 101 in Calabasas Casino cash: $-240000	Also, nobody talked about Jawaan during the previous season because he played for a shit franchise, he is no longer on a shit franchise. Defending champs have someone on the Oline who gets 4-5 penalties in one game all from him? looks pretty stupid. NFL is a bottom line business it's a miracle this dude has made it this far.
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