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Old 12-25-2023, 03:13 PM  
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:19 PM   #16
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What do you want Andy or Nagy to do with this offense? They have no talent on it and nobody wants to talk about Kelce getting old and slow.

Our OL got skull ****ed by 4 DL all day long. They got their asses kicked. Bill Walsh couldn't out scheme that
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:19 PM   #17
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:20 PM   #18
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What do you want Andy or Nagy to do with this offense? They have no talent on it and nobody wants to talk about Kelce getting old and slow.

Our OL got skull ****ed by 4 DL all day long. They got their asses kicked. Bill Walsh couldn't out scheme that
A lot of truth being told here
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:23 PM   #19
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I’m over the Nagy experiment, he’s had 2/3rd of a season and it’s atrocious. Bring in someone new with different ideas.
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:25 PM   #20
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Offensive coordinators under Andy shouldn't get too much of the credit or blame for the offense. This is Andy’s offense. This team just doesn’t have playmakers. That’s the problem, not the OC.
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:26 PM   #21
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:27 PM   #22
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:28 PM   #23
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This is Andy offensive lol at you all thinking Matt has any say.
When EB was the OC, did the offense ever look this lost?

It doesn't matter who calls the plays. Nagy obviously sucks at helping Reid create the First Fifteen script.

In the past, and with EB as the OC, the scripted plays to start the game usually worked, and resulted in points.

Did Reid suddenly forget how to script plays? No. The plays that Nagy identifies as being good against a specific defense suck. He has no clue how to attack and set up a defense.

Nagy is absolutely the second biggest part of the problem.

The biggest part of the problem is that Veach failed at least twice (preseason and at the trade deadline) to improve the WR room.

Adding ONE receiver or pass catcher, at any point, other than Kelce (and now Rice) who was anywhere close to being competent, would have made a huge difference in the way the season is playing out.
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:28 PM   #24
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Offensive coordinators under Andy shouldn't get too much of the credit or blame for the offense. This is Andy’s offense. This team just doesn’t have playmakers. That’s the problem, not the OC.
This very well not be Nagy's fault BUT if the OC doesn't matter and the team automatically sputters with him at OC...then there is no risk to make a change...
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:28 PM   #25
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Offensive coordinators under Andy shouldn't get too much of the credit or blame for the offense. This is Andy’s offense. This team just doesn’t have playmakers. That’s the problem, not the OC.
Yeah, I'm not sure what offensive wizard or genius could fix this. Andy Reid is supposed to be the best offensive mind in the game.

This isn't fixable without new personnel.
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What do you want Andy or Nagy to do with this offense? They have no talent on it and nobody wants to talk about Kelce getting old and slow.

Our OL got skull ****ed by 4 DL all day long. They got their asses kicked. Bill Walsh couldn't out scheme that
Players play, but I wonder about some of the play calls.

The play call that led to the Pach/Mahomes fumble and the back-to-back Kelce screens inside the 10 stand out.
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:31 PM   #28
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This very well not be Nagy's fault BUT if the OC doesn't matter and the team automatically sputters with him at OC...then there is no risk to make a change...
That's actually a good point.

Too bad we know that Reid is loyal to a fault. Like, if Sutton didn't retire, he would still be the DC.
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More like Matt bundle of sticks-gy amirite??

But seriously **** this guy. I haven't had this little fun watching an offense in a decade or so. I'm gonna blame Mr. Shitcago
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Old 12-25-2023, 03:32 PM   #30
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When EB was the OC, did the offense ever look this lost?

It doesn't matter who calls the plays. Nagy obviously sucks at helping Reid create the First Fifteen script.

In the past, and with EB as the OC, the scripted plays to start the game usually worked, and resulted in points.

Did Reid suddenly forget how to script plays? No. The plays that Nagy identifies as being good against a specific defense suck. He has no clue how to attack and set up a defense.

Nagy is absolutely the second biggest part of the problem.

The biggest part of the problem is that Veach failed at least twice (preseason and at the trade deadline) to improve the WR room.

Adding ONE receiver or pass catcher, at any point, other than Kelce (and now Rice) who was anywhere close to being competent, would have made a huge difference in the way the season is playing out.
Playcalls are fine but the talent sucks. EB looked good with Sammy Watkins, Tyreek Hill, prime Kelce, Fisher and Schwartz at tackle along with Damien Williams.

Are you really stupid enough to think the offense looks this bad if those players at those points of their career were playing today?
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