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Old 01-29-2024, 10:59 AM  
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Mahomes chasing the GOAT

It seems inarguable that Brady is the GOAT, but we're past the end of his 23 season career and we see the entirety of his achievements. Mahomes is only in his 7th season, so it would be fair to compare Brady at the same point in his career. Since success is the ultimate measure for such a comparison, I only looked at playoff performance.

Brady started his career at age 23 while Mahomes started at age 22 and both players made their first playoff start in their second season. Currently, Mahomes is finishing his 7th season and will finish with 18 career playoff starts. At the end of his 7th season Brady had made 14 playoff starts. Brady did not get to 18 playoff starts until the end of his 10th season.

Mahomes is currently 14-3 (.824) in his playoff starts while Brady was 12-2 (.857) after his 7th season and 14-3 (.824) after his 17th playoff start.

At the end of his 7th season, Mahomes will have either 2 or 3 Super Bowl wins, while at the end of his 7th season Brady had 3 Super Bowl wins and after his 18th playoff game he was still at 3 Super Bowl wins.

Mahomes' numbers are better than Brady's across the board too. All of these comparisons are after 17 playoff games:

Completions - Mahomes (M) 422 - Brady (B) 372
Completion % - M 67.4 - B 62.5
Yards/attempt - M 7.7 - B 6.6
Yards - M 4802 - B 3954
Touchdowns - M 39 - B 26
Interceptions - M 7 - B 12
Sacks - M 32 - B 28

Rushing stats
Attempts - M 81 - B 42
Yards - M 458 - B 68
Yards/attempt - M 5.65 - B 1.62
Touchdowns - M 5 - B 2

None of this is presented to say that Mahomes should be called the GOAT over Brady, but he is well on the way to getting there.

All statistics are from pro football reference.
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Old 01-29-2024, 11:45 AM   #16
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He is the goat just for the simple fact Brady benefited from spygate for his first three supwerbowls.

Fun fact: There was spygate II that got swept under the rug by the NFL as well. I think many folks forgot

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Old 01-29-2024, 11:55 AM   #17
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I was thinking about it yesterday (not this post specifically) and I think that's fair.

Like Mahomes is a better QB than Brady was. I mean like the mechanics of being a QB, making throws and doing crazy shit. But if you want to judge who is the goat based on who won the most SB's, which I think is a very fair metric to judge by, it's obviously Brady. But to me that's a little bit of an oversimplification. Like if Dee Ford lines up onside Brady likely has one less and Mahomes has one more, but that doesn't really have to do with Brady or Mahomes specifically.

Mahomes hasn't caught Brady yet, I'd still call Brady the GOAT but Mahomes I think is on the trajectory to do it and I think he will eclipse Brady by the end of his career even if the ring count is still in Brady's favor.
if Dee ford lines up onsides, the Chiefs beat NE and go onto win the SB in 2018. however, it is very likely that Bob Sutton wouldn’t have been fired. no way are we this successful (2 SBs, 4 SB appearances) without Spags.
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Old 01-29-2024, 11:59 AM   #18
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if Dee ford lines up onsides, the Chiefs beat NE and go onto win the SB in 2018. however, it is very likely that Bob Sutton wouldn’t have been fired. no way are we this successful without Spags.
that's fair but that's also kind of what I'm getting at with judging goatness solely by who has the most rings, there's so much that's outside the control of the QB

like i'll be honest that I dont' know enough about the partiots to say this but if you put Brady in for Mahomes on this team specifically do they get past the Bills and the Ravens? IDK
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After Mahomes got his first, I predicted he would win 3 Super Bowls.

After the second, I upped that to 4. 1 more in the prime. 1 at the end of his career.

If we win this one, I’m done guessing. I don’t have a realistic number to guess.
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