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**Easy 6** · 05-20-2025, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Late stage Favre did a lot of that, for sure.

From about 32 and beyond, he started writing checks his ass couldn't cash anymore. Some of that was a decline in physical skills, some of that was just that the league caught up to the more high-flying passing games a bit.

But he 'only' led the league in INTs once before he turned 34. And in his playoff career prior to that late stage Favre era, most of what he did in the playoffs was just lose to better teams.

I mean it's not like the Packers were hot shit around him. Everyone loves to glaze Reggie White but the guy didn't even make it to GB until he was 32. He was still good, but he wasn't THE Reggie White at that point; more of a good story than an amazing player.

In the 93, 94 and 95 seasons he lost to the Cowbooys in the midst of their Dynasty. It happens. He was a young QB in someone else's story.

96 season they won the title. 97 they lost to the cheating Donks and it's hard to say his 'recklessness' was a reason why.

98 they lost to the 49ers on that goddamn miracle T.O. catch as time expired. Can't really kill him for his DC not knowing how to defend a go up the !@#$ing seam...

Then Homlgren left, got replaced with the dipshit that was Ray Rhodes, and Favre really lost a couple years of his prime.

2001 came and he lost to the Greatest Show on Turf Rams -- they were just a better team than GB. I mean, he was shattered ass in that game, but that's when I think we started to see the desperation start to sneak in. That was when things go pretty tough for him in the post-season and I think he started trying to do too much.

But I do think there's a bit of revisionism when it comes to 'Brett Favre' whereby we don't really divide his career as we should. There was the Young/Prime Favre (who played in the era where they'd beat the holy **** out of QBs) who guided an ascending team to a championship squad with a very good coaching staff around him.

Then there was the descending Favre back when 32 was pretty damn old for a QB. His team wasn't as good. His coaching staff wasn't as good. He'd been beaten to hell for about a decade at that point. And no, he just flat wasn't as good.

But I don't think it's fair to say that was emblematic of his entire career. It was his post-prime years. Those should be viewed on their own.

He was as dynamic as QB play had ever been in his prime, backyard hero ball that actually won more often than not... theres a good reason why both Reid and Veach directly comp'd Mahomes to him after the 2017 draft

MarkDavis'Haircut · 05-20-2025, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

He was as dynamic as QB play had ever been in his prime, backyard hero ball that actually won more often than not... theres a good reason why both Reid and Veach directly comp'd Mahomes to him after the 2017 draft

Favre was the Al Davis QB that got away. I can't believe Al didn't land him. Big, strong, tough.

A Raiders fan pointed out to me that the Chiefs before Hill left were built like an Al vertical offense. Bombs away with a strong arm QB. He wasn't wrong. That is why we drafted Ruggs.

Wisconsin_Chief · 05-20-2025, 02:01 PM

It was pretty well known around Green Bay what a d-bag Favre was. He used to hit the bar scene hard in his younger days and was a known prick to everyone, and slept with anything with a pulse.

That said, I don't think that's much different from most professional athletes, especially back then. You can't tell me Troy Aikman was some kind of choir boy back in those days. Privileged athletes could get away with almost anything in the 80s and 90s, and they took full advantage of it. Seems like a cheap hit piece on the guy, but I certainly won't shed any tears for him.

DJ's left nut · 05-20-2025, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

It was pretty well known around Green Bay what a d-bag Favre was. He used to hit the bar scene hard in his younger days and was a known prick to everyone, and slept with anything with a pulse.

That said, I don't think that's much different from most professional athletes, especially back then. You can't tell me Troy Aikman was some kind of choir boy back in those days. Privileged athletes could get away with almost anything in the 80s and 90s, and they took full advantage of it. Seems like a cheap hit piece on the guy, but I certainly won't shed any tears for him.

Read Pearlman's book on the Cowboys.

God almighty was Troy Aikman an idiot. I mean he still is an idiot, but it wasn't the hits that did that to him.

That dude's just very stupid.

I think he was haughty more than mean-spirited, though. It's sort of a distinction without a difference when you get down to it, but it's something.

It is sorta interesting how some of these guys who struggle to rub a couple braincells together are able to just see the game differently than most. I don't think Favre was strictly a 'cerebral' quarterback by any stretch, but there's obviously a difference between someone like him and a guy like Jamies or even Cutler.

He was aggressive, sure. Reckless even. But wasn't a stupid quarterback. And a guy like Aikman was very similar.

Dumb as a bag of hammers - still understood football better than far smarter guys.

chiefzilla1501 · 05-20-2025, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

It was pretty well known around Green Bay what a d-bag Favre was. He used to hit the bar scene hard in his younger days and was a known prick to everyone, and slept with anything with a pulse.

That said, I don't think that's much different from most professional athletes, especially back then. You can't tell me Troy Aikman was some kind of choir boy back in those days. Privileged athletes could get away with almost anything in the 80s and 90s, and they took full advantage of it. Seems like a cheap hit piece on the guy, but I certainly won't shed any tears for him.

It’s amazing there isn’t more isn’t said about cris collinsworth given that he’s a prominent announcer. The shit he says about teenagers… just a whole other level of gross

Pepe Silvia · 05-20-2025, 02:10 PM

I always wondered why Jerry Glanville hated him so much.

tyton75 · 05-20-2025, 02:39 PM

I hate what he turned into. I was a big fan growing up

George Liquor · 05-20-2025, 06:42 PM

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I hate what he turned into. I was a big fan growing up

Same.. used to love the Farve led Packers when the Chiefs were a constant disappointment. I guess what they say about meeting your heros is probably true.

chiefzilla1501 · 05-20-2025, 02:49 PM

Favre is a giant piece of shit. But I’ve learned that if you don’t separate who players are as people versus what they do to help win games, it would be impossible to be a sports fan.

I don’t regret rooting for tyreek when he was helping us win and if he didn’t become such a worse teammate over time, still would. I was fine with Kareem except where he betrayed the front offices trust. I am ok with rashee coming back except that I hope he’s truly learned his lesson. Where it matters is if their attitude or behavior fractures the locker room or makes them unreliable (either because they stop working hard or because they are a walking distraction/suspension risk). Then you have guys like OJ and Darren sharper who of course crossed a way bigger line.

But yes when it comes to who you continue to treat as heroes after they’re done, that’s something different. Favre was hella fun to watch. But I’m good to now call him a total piece of shit

Frazod · 05-20-2025, 03:30 PM

I saw him play in person a few times and I'm glad I did. Outside of Pat and Brady he's the best I've seen play live. But yeah, he's a giant douche.

**Easy 6** · 05-20-2025, 03:32 PM

Thanks for the info, its on tonights list

BlackHelicopters · 05-20-2025, 03:57 PM

Favre loved his Vicodin.

DJ's left nut · 05-20-2025, 04:06 PM

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Favre loved his Vicodin.

You play 300 straight games under center during that era and tell me YOU wouldn't.

He's just the guy that admitted it.

https://packaged-media.redd.it/megw0...92800&c8b20e89

Regan Upshaw gets suspended for that shit today. Back then? Not even a flag -- back in the huddle, go throw a TD.

EDIT: Doesn't look like the link worked. Google "Favre Regan Upshaw hit" and it'll find it . Upshaw essentially elbows him in the earhole as he turns his head -- Favre pops up yelling at him then throws a 40 yard touchdown.

MarkDavis'Haircut · 05-20-2025, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You play 300 straight games under center during that era and tell me YOU wouldn't.

He's just the guy that admitted it.

https://packaged-media.redd.it/megw0...92800&c8b20e89

Regan Upshaw gets suspended for that shit today. Back then? Not even a flag -- back in the huddle, go throw a TD.

I remember the game where he got a concussion. Came right back out. Threw a TD pass to keep his streak going.

ChiefsCountry · 05-20-2025, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackHelicopters

Favre loved his Vicodin.

It was good shit. I was on it for the second half of my senior football season when I tore my shoulder up. Felt no pain on the football field lol.

05-20-2025, 02:01 PM	#3
Wisconsin_Chief MVP Join Date: Aug 2019 Casino cash: $-1189600	It was pretty well known around Green Bay what a d-bag Favre was. He used to hit the bar scene hard in his younger days and was a known prick to everyone, and slept with anything with a pulse. That said, I don't think that's much different from most professional athletes, especially back then. You can't tell me Troy Aikman was some kind of choir boy back in those days. Privileged athletes could get away with almost anything in the 80s and 90s, and they took full advantage of it. Seems like a cheap hit piece on the guy, but I certainly won't shed any tears for him.
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1855503	Favre is a giant piece of shit. But I’ve learned that if you don’t separate who players are as people versus what they do to help win games, it would be impossible to be a sports fan. I don’t regret rooting for tyreek when he was helping us win and if he didn’t become such a worse teammate over time, still would. I was fine with Kareem except where he betrayed the front offices trust. I am ok with rashee coming back except that I hope he’s truly learned his lesson. Where it matters is if their attitude or behavior fractures the locker room or makes them unreliable (either because they stop working hard or because they are a walking distraction/suspension risk). Then you have guys like OJ and Darren sharper who of course crossed a way bigger line. But yes when it comes to who you continue to treat as heroes after they’re done, that’s something different. Favre was hella fun to watch. But I’m good to now call him a total piece of shit
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Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-876615	I saw him play in person a few times and I'm glad I did. Outside of Pat and Brady he's the best I've seen play live. But yeah, he's a giant douche.
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BlackHelicopters Spiraling down the Drain Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dante's Ninth Circle Casino cash: $-90000	Favre loved his Vicodin. __________________ "We're both part of the same hypocrisy, Senator, but never think it applies to my family." "Fredo. You are my brother, and I love you. But never take sides against the Family again. Ever." 2019 Adopt a Chief - Travis Kelce #87
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