Stick a fork in them.. - Page 2

**The Bad Guy** · 09-19-2004, 02:16 PM

Vermeil, Peterson and whatever else front office moron that felt the need to stand pat this off-season should be ashamed of themselves.

This team is finished for 2004.

A injury rattled team came into Arrowhead and took the Chiefs lunch money. They beat the hell out of them in every aspect of the game.

The fact you finish on average of 30th in the NFL in a 3 year period and stand pat on defense is completely disgusting.

The fact that you WON'T go out and acquire a receiver to help this offense is going to be the death of it. The offense was one of the best the last two years, but defenses adjust and change. But this offense never has. They have never gone out to get another weapon.

It's called standing pat, and the Chiefs did it offensively and defensively and they deserve to finish 6-10.

This team deserves to fail because the front office from the president/ceo, to the director of college scouting to the head coach have set this team up for failure.

How many years can we have lousy drafts. We haven't had a good first round draft pick since 1999.

Gunther isn't the problem. The problem is we have some of the worst defensive talent ever assembled on defense. Look at our linebackers, they are pitiful. Shawn Barber is a joke. Fujita whiffs on everything. Beisel is a tweener - which should be the slogan for our defense because they are all tweeners.

Warfield's alright, McCleon is bad. Jerome Woods is the invisible man. He's not a real Pro Bowler. He's flat out horrible. I'm sick of listening to people praise this guy when he sucks.

Hicks has done nothing. Hell, the only player that played worth a damn is Lional Dalton.

This season is going to be a long one. But I'm done worrying and being angry about this team. They pull the company line that they are cashed out and have no money to do anything, well my nerves are shot and I'm done having high expectations only to be dissapointed.

If Carolina can come in and take it to this team with half their offensive firepower on the sideline, that should tell you something.

This defense doesn't make plays, they turn running backs into players.

Vermeil's stubborness is the biggest achilies heel of this team. It's a shame he has put Gunther in the position to fail with the same scabs.

I just don't get it. Vermeil said the players lost the Colts game, and then admits he's reluctant to fire G-Rob, but yet he keeps the same players around. The logic doesn't make sense.

But this organization has never made sense.

I'm done venting now. Flame away, homers.

**the Talking Can** · 09-19-2004, 02:53 PM

can we please stop with the absurd Patriots analogy....every team in the league uses that excuse

The Patriots had won a ****ing Superbowl two years prior....our defense has sucked for years: they have no success to refer to....

**Skip Towne** · 09-19-2004, 02:53 PM

Hey, it's not all negative, we sold a million dollars worth of beer.

KHinz57 · 09-19-2004, 03:03 PM

Speaking of which, New England is beating the Arizona Cardinals 14-0 at this time.

**The Bad Guy** · 09-19-2004, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian

The Offense played like crap.....the Defense played like Crap......The Special teams played like crap.

Denver also played like crap.

KC is one game out of first place.

The sky has not fallen. Stop acting like a horde of Menstruating Bronco fans.

The defense has played like crap since the Denver game of last year.

The offense has no receivers to throw to.

The sky fell in the off-season.

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-19-2004, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian

The Offense played like crap.....the Defense played like Crap......The Special teams played like crap.

Denver also played like crap.

KC is one game out of first place.

The sky has not fallen. Stop acting like a horde of Menstruating Bronco fans.

exactly. and SD is down 0-14 to the Jets.

rep

KCN · 09-19-2004, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky

What offense? Did you see them today?

That's what I was thinking. The offense so far has not able to get into that groove it had last year to make up for our incompetent defense. Combine that with the toughest schedule I've ever seen...this is going to be a long ass season.

But hey, better we figure this out now before I waste all my time getting hyped up like last year. I'm graduating in december so it's nice to know that if I have to work hard on a Sunday that I won't be missing anything.

Even so, I'm not jumping ship. I'll still wear my red every Sunday, and continue to be the lone voice yelling for the Chiefs at the sports bar down here in TX.

**The Bad Guy** · 09-19-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

But I bet you couldn't find to many Patriots fans who thought they would win the SB after a 31-0 thrashing they took from Buffalo in week 1 !

That's one game.

The next game they responded against Philadelphia.

The Chiefs defense hasn't responded to all the jokes in the off-season, they haven't responded to getting embarrased to the Colts, they haven't responded to anything. They get ran on, they get thrown all over and it doesn't seem to matter to these clowns.

VonneMarie · 09-19-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

The defense has played like crap since the Denver game of last year.

The offense has no receivers to throw to.

The sky fell in the off-season.

Yes I fell after the Cleveland game.

**Baby Lee** · 09-19-2004, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1adam1238

for you ****ing info...the pats didn't start 0-2 last year.....they lost there third game.

Lost their first on the road, Buff. Won at Philly. Won at home, Jets. Lost at Wash. Started 2-2.

TEX · 09-19-2004, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

exactly. and SD is down 0-14 to the Jets.

rep

The CHIEFS just BLEW a great opportunity to get even with the division. Whenever you get your A$$ handed to you at HOME is cause for concern.

FringeNC · 09-19-2004, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

That's one game.

The next game they responded against Philadelphia.

The Chiefs defense hasn't responded to all the jokes in the off-season, they haven't responded to getting embarrased to the Colts, they haven't responded to anything. They get ran on, they get thrown all over and it doesn't seem to matter to these clowns.

The season isn't over, but I am really concerned about our offense. By the end of the year, our D might be substantially better, but it won't matter if our O isn't winning games for us now -- we'll be out of the playoffs.

The total breakdown of the passing game is worrisome. It's not like Brady has that much talent to throw to at WR. Maybe Green really misses Terry Shea. I dunno. Over the last 3 years, the up and down nature of the passing game doesn't make sense.

old_geezer · 09-19-2004, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sky

What offense? Did you see them today?

Yes.......they were standing on the sidelines most of the day waiting for the Panthers to score so they could get back in the game.

LVNHACK · 09-19-2004, 03:24 PM

I'm gonna add Al Saunder's playing calling sucks ass......You've got one of the best RB's in the game along with a very good Oline, and you wanna be cute and throw the ball around. Al Saunders is over rated IMO.

ARROW2 · 09-19-2004, 03:36 PM

We're done. That was pitiful. Morton is soffft...Beisel will NEVER be a middle linebacker, too slow. Barber should get benched for Fox. Play Richard Smith, at least he gets open. So what he dropped it, at least he was open to drop it.

HolmeZz · 09-19-2004, 03:40 PM

I'm not worried at all about the offense. Trent always limps through the first couple weeks of the season. The fact that we have 0 receivers won't change though.

I don't understand why we stopped going to Gonzo today though. We were torching Carolina with him, then we just quit throwing his way.

09-19-2004, 02:16 PM
The Bad Guy Scott Pioli Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Copacobana Casino cash: $9283645	Stick a fork in them.. Vermeil, Peterson and whatever else front office moron that felt the need to stand pat this off-season should be ashamed of themselves. This team is finished for 2004. A injury rattled team came into Arrowhead and took the Chiefs lunch money. They beat the hell out of them in every aspect of the game. The fact you finish on average of 30th in the NFL in a 3 year period and stand pat on defense is completely disgusting. The fact that you WON'T go out and acquire a receiver to help this offense is going to be the death of it. The offense was one of the best the last two years, but defenses adjust and change. But this offense never has. They have never gone out to get another weapon. It's called standing pat, and the Chiefs did it offensively and defensively and they deserve to finish 6-10. This team deserves to fail because the front office from the president/ceo, to the director of college scouting to the head coach have set this team up for failure. How many years can we have lousy drafts. We haven't had a good first round draft pick since 1999. Gunther isn't the problem. The problem is we have some of the worst defensive talent ever assembled on defense. Look at our linebackers, they are pitiful. Shawn Barber is a joke. Fujita whiffs on everything. Beisel is a tweener - which should be the slogan for our defense because they are all tweeners. Warfield's alright, McCleon is bad. Jerome Woods is the invisible man. He's not a real Pro Bowler. He's flat out horrible. I'm sick of listening to people praise this guy when he sucks. Hicks has done nothing. Hell, the only player that played worth a damn is Lional Dalton. This season is going to be a long one. But I'm done worrying and being angry about this team. They pull the company line that they are cashed out and have no money to do anything, well my nerves are shot and I'm done having high expectations only to be dissapointed. If Carolina can come in and take it to this team with half their offensive firepower on the sideline, that should tell you something. This defense doesn't make plays, they turn running backs into players. Vermeil's stubborness is the biggest achilies heel of this team. It's a shame he has put Gunther in the position to fail with the same scabs. I just don't get it. Vermeil said the players lost the Colts game, and then admits he's reluctant to fire G-Rob, but yet he keeps the same players around. The logic doesn't make sense. But this organization has never made sense. I'm done venting now. Flame away, homers.
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the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $9212208	can we please stop with the absurd Patriots analogy....every team in the league uses that excuse The Patriots had won a **ing Superbowl two years prior....our defense has sucked for years: they have no success to refer to.... __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"**
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LVNHACK MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baghdad Casino cash: $10004925	I'm gonna add Al Saunder's playing calling sucks ass......You've got one of the best RB's in the game along with a very good Oline, and you wanna be cute and throw the ball around. Al Saunders is over rated IMO. __________________ Bleach really should be used in the gene pool Some people grow up, some just grow old.
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ARROW2 MVP Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $9104329	We're done. That was pitiful. Morton is soffft...Beisel will NEVER be a middle linebacker, too slow. Barber should get benched for Fox. Play Richard Smith, at least he gets open. So what he dropped it, at least he was open to drop it.
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09-19-2004, 03:40 PM	#30
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	I'm not worried at all about the offense. Trent always limps through the first couple weeks of the season. The fact that we have 0 receivers won't change though. I don't understand why we stopped going to Gonzo today though. We were torching Carolina with him, then we just quit throwing his way.
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