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Old 05-05-2009, 02:40 PM   #1
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Death penalty is no cheaper than a life sentence. Years of appeals, usually by appointed counsel, etc.
Let's fix how much it costs.
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Old 05-05-2009, 02:44 PM   #2
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Death penalty is no cheaper than a life sentence. Years of appeals, usually by appointed counsel, etc.
You are telling me that housing someone at state expense for 40 years is cheaper than a court appointed lawyer running appeals? I don't believe that.

Besides if it's too expensive we should fix that instead of suspending justice.
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Old 05-05-2009, 02:59 PM   #3
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You are telling me that housing someone at state expense for 40 years is cheaper than a court appointed lawyer running appeals? I don't believe that.

Besides if it's too expensive we should fix that instead of suspending justice.
In its review of death penalty expenses, the State of Kansas concluded that capital cases are 70% more expensive than comparable non-death penalty cases. The study counted death penalty case costs through to execution and found that the median death penalty case costs $1.26 million. Non-death penalty cases were counted through to the end of incarceration and were found to have a median cost of $740,000. For death penalty cases, the pre-trial and trial level expenses were the most expensive part, 49% of the total cost. The costs of appeals were 29% of the total expense, and the incarceration and execution costs accounted for the remaining 22%. In comparison to non-death penalty cases, the following findings were revealed:

The investigation costs for death-sentence cases were about 3 times greater than for non-death cases.

The trial costs for death cases were about 16 times greater than for non-death cases ($508,000 for death case; $32,000 for non-death case).

The appeal costs for death cases were 21 times greater.

The costs of carrying out (i.e. incarceration and/or execution) a death sentence were about half the costs of carrying out a non-death sentence in a comparable case.

Trials involving a death sentence averaged 34 days, including jury selection; non-death trials averaged about 9 days.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/node/1080
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:00 PM   #4
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Trials involving a death sentence averaged 34 days, including jury selection; non-death trials averaged about 9 days.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/node/1080
That's how long it should take to execute them, at most.
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:05 PM   #5
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In its review of death penalty expenses, the State of Kansas concluded that capital cases are 70% more expensive than comparable non-death penalty cases. The study counted death penalty case costs through to execution and found that the median death penalty case costs $1.26 million. Non-death penalty cases were counted through to the end of incarceration and were found to have a median cost of $740,000. For death penalty cases, the pre-trial and trial level expenses were the most expensive part, 49% of the total cost. The costs of appeals were 29% of the total expense, and the incarceration and execution costs accounted for the remaining 22%. In comparison to non-death penalty cases, the following findings were revealed:

The investigation costs for death-sentence cases were about 3 times greater than for non-death cases.

The trial costs for death cases were about 16 times greater than for non-death cases ($508,000 for death case; $32,000 for non-death case).

The appeal costs for death cases were 21 times greater.

The costs of carrying out (i.e. incarceration and/or execution) a death sentence were about half the costs of carrying out a non-death sentence in a comparable case.

Trials involving a death sentence averaged 34 days, including jury selection; non-death trials averaged about 9 days.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/node/1080
Are you saying that the state pays less than $500,000 in total expenses to house someone on a life sentence for 30 or 40 years, until the end of their natural life?
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:31 PM   #6
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In its review of death penalty expenses, the State of Kansas concluded that capital cases are 70% more expensive than comparable non-death penalty cases. The study counted death penalty case costs through to execution and found that the median death penalty case costs $1.26 million. Non-death penalty cases were counted through to the end of incarceration and were found to have a median cost of $740,000. For death penalty cases, the pre-trial and trial level expenses were the most expensive part, 49% of the total cost. The costs of appeals were 29% of the total expense, and the incarceration and execution costs accounted for the remaining 22%. In comparison to non-death penalty cases, the following findings were revealed:

The investigation costs for death-sentence cases were about 3 times greater than for non-death cases.

The trial costs for death cases were about 16 times greater than for non-death cases ($508,000 for death case; $32,000 for non-death case).


The appeal costs for death cases were 21 times greater.

The costs of carrying out (i.e. incarceration and/or execution) a death sentence were about half the costs of carrying out a non-death sentence in a comparable case.

Trials involving a death sentence averaged 34 days, including jury selection; non-death trials averaged about 9 days.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/node/1080

Looks like the judicial system half-asses it when a life isn't on the line.
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Old 05-05-2009, 02:57 PM   #7
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Death penalty is no cheaper than a life sentence. Years of appeals, usually by appointed counsel, etc.
true, thats because the system is stupid
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:08 PM   #8
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Did anyone else notice that this guy killed an 81 year old man in 1978 and only served 14 years?

God has extended me grace. And, from that perspective, I try to extend it to others. However, God has put people in places of authority for a reason. If God wanted this guy to live, then no one could take his life.

As for me, I pray that he has changed. I pray that he has found God, than he is saved and that has been redeemed. I pray that somehow, despite the sorrow and tragedy that he has brought about, that God has used his life for God's work.

The story of Mosses would not have been possible without a Pharroh with a hardened heart. No telling what great works God was able to do with these tragedies.
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Old 05-05-2009, 03:14 PM   #9
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It's not so much that he deserves to die. It's moreso that I don't think he deserves to live. Exterminate the vermin.
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Old 05-05-2009, 04:48 PM   #10
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Let's go back to the eye for an eye thing.

You steal....you get your hand cut off.
You rape.....you get raped......by a bat.
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Old 05-05-2009, 09:21 PM   #11
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Excellent news that the stay was denied.....

This piece of shit will meet his maker....
About 15 years late, but in the end, it shall be done....

Peace to all that were affected by this POS actions....
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Old 05-05-2009, 10:22 PM   #12
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Old 05-05-2009, 11:52 PM   #13
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Oh yeah, I remember this. Did they fry this POS yet?
It is currently scheduled for May 20th.....
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Old 05-06-2009, 10:59 AM   #14
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Just imagine the support therman and co would have received if I hadn't started the negative tone on the first reply. I feel great remorse for those actions now.




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Old 05-06-2009, 02:06 PM   #15
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