Haley will serve as guest analyst on ESPN show

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Haley will serve as guest analyst on ESPN show
Former Chiefs coach Todd Haley, fired on Monday after the team’s 37-10 loss to the New York Jets, will be a guest analyst tomorrow on the ESPN show “Audibles,” which will air from 7 p.m. to 8 p.m. He’ll appear alongside regular analysts Keyshawn Johnson, Trent Dilfer and Jerry Rice.

An ESPN communications executive described the show as having a viewer-controlled format, allowing the analysts to answer questions.

Haley spent less than three seasons as Chiefs coach before being fired Monday.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Pope
Breaston
Long
Urbhan
Jones
Brown
Palko

That's a list that kinda disproves your statement, buddy.

I think you should take Breaston off that list. He will be fine with a real QB.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I think you should take Breaston off that list. He will be fine with a real QB.

Its a list of guys that Pioli signed for Haley.

Breaston is absolutely one of those guys.

I bet he feels ripped off after seeing Haley get fired and after signing here for his "prime years contract"

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Its a list of guys that Pioli signed for Haley.

Breaston is absolutely one of those guys.

I bet he feels ripped off after seeing Haley get fired and after signing here for his "prime years contract"

Oh I see. I thought it was just failures of guys that Haley wanted to come in. I think Breaston will be cool with it if we get a real QB. Its not like we are the Browns. We may not be GB, but with a QB, we have a lot of talent on both sides of the ball. Plus he got the money he wanted, I am sure he will be alright.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Pope
Breaston
Long
Urbhan
Jones
Brown
Palko

That's a list that kinda disproves your statement, buddy.

It doesn't disprove my statement. How many of those players required any kind of real investment. Breaston is the only one. Those guys combined, minus Breaston, didn't come with picks and probably combine for the salary of Jamaal Charles.

Matt Cassel/Vrabel? 2nd round pick and $60+M.
Romeo Crennel - forced a complete shift in defensive scheme
Charlie Weis - dictated the offense

Everything about the scheme was Pioli. Haley was allowed to add some supplementary pieces. That's like letting your boss pick your house, but you feel good because you were allowed to buy a sofa.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I bet he feels ripped off after seeing Haley get fired and after signing here for his "prime years contract"

Whatever. Dude should have had the smarts not to hook up with a shit QB for his prime years.

[FAX]

In these kinds of ChiefsPlanet discussions, more often than not, somebody takes black and another takes white, or so it seems. Actually, there are many shades of gray. That's just the way it is in real life.

It's unreasonable to assume that Haley and Dr. Evil had a conflict over every, single player or never agreed on anything, ever. Instead, it make far more sense that they occasionally agreed on players. For example, it's perfectly logical that they would both see the need in beefing up the WR corp in order to help Cassel, and this would easily explain Baldwin and Breaston.

It also makes sense that they would disagree over other guys and, in cases like that, Dr. Evil would stick it to Haley by giving him the worst player possible without violating league rules and signing a girl or a one-armed Zeta Reticulite who got left behind after leaving the spaceship for just a second to take a pee.

However, based on the more dependable sources that are reporting on this deal recently, it appears that Dr. Evil discounted Haley's potential contribution to the franchise and undermined him at every possible turn. And, if that's true, Dr. Evil must be held accountable and that means only one thing; being drowned in a vat of boiling rat urine.

FAX

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by FAX

In these kinds of ChiefsPlanet discussions, more often than not, somebody takes black and another takes white, or so it seems. Actually, there are many shades of gray. That's just the way it is in real life.

It's unreasonable to assume that Haley and Dr. Evil had a conflict over every, single player or never agreed on anything, ever. Instead, it make far more sense that they occasionally agreed on players. For example, it's perfectly logical that they would both see the need in beefing up the WR corp in order to help Cassel, and this would easily explain Baldwin and Breaston.

It also makes sense that they would disagree over other guys and, in cases like that, Dr. Evil would stick it to Haley by giving him the worst player possible without violating league rules and signing a girl or a one-armed Zeta Reticulite who got left behind after leaving the spaceship for just a second to take a pee.

However, based on the more dependable sources that are reporting on this deal recently, it appears that Dr. Evil discounted Haley's potential contribution to the franchise and undermined him at every possible turn. And, if that's true, Dr. Evil must be held accountable and that means only one thing; being drowned in a vat of boiling rat urine.

FAX

Forget CP, thats how people handle real life. Black and white so no thought is needed. There is plenty of blame to go around. We just need to hope that the guy still here makes up for it with the right moves.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Its a list of guys that Pioli signed for Haley.

Breaston is absolutely one of those guys.

I bet he feels ripped off after seeing Haley get fired and after signing here for his "prime years contract"

Oh well the guy really isn't worth his contract.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Oh well the guy really isn't worth his contract.

He did get a lot of money for a slot reciever. If we get a real QB, along with keeping Bowe and Baldwin improving, its only going to make Breaston that much more dangerous. Running 3 wide with a healthy Moeaki will either give Charles more space or let the recievers have a lot of room to work.

[kcxiv]

No qb, no future. Its as simple as that. Keyshawn said it, if you all had a real qb, you wouldnt be sitting next to me.

[scho63]

Watched the interview last night at a sports bar during dinner. What was with his shirt hanging out the front of his pants? He looked liked his Mom rushed to dress him for the school bus.

Thought Haley was pretty damn good, took a few subtle and a couple of not so subtle jabs, the guys asked him good questions and showed they thought he got a bum deal, and much of what he said we all pretty much knew: the HC always goes first when a GM makes bad personnel decisions.

If Pioli insists on sticking with Cassel we will lose another year waiting and then Pioli will lose his job. That really sucks...........

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

It doesn't disprove my statement. How many of those players required any kind of real investment. Breaston is the only one. Those guys combined, minus Breaston, didn't come with picks and probably combine for the salary of Jamaal Charles.

Matt Cassel/Vrabel? 2nd round pick and $60+M.
Romeo Crennel - forced a complete shift in defensive scheme
Charlie Weis - dictated the offense

Everything about the scheme was Pioli. Haley was allowed to add some supplementary pieces. That's like letting your boss pick your house, but you feel good because you were allowed to buy a sofa.

I can't understand why Pioli would not want Haley to run the offense, what with all the success he's had in 2009 and 2011.

And, the defense was set in stone the minute they drafted Tyson Jackson, according to you..... so what difference does it make whether it is Clancy or Romeo? I mean, other than the coordinator being effective.

To use your analogy, Haley wanted to buy a crack house filled with hookers and a meth lab, but Pioli wanted to buy on a different street.

To make up for it, Pioli let Haley bring in a couple of cars on blocks to 'spruce up the place'.

Now, as for the merits of your story.

#1) Gailey was still here, and Haley couldn't work with him, so he was fired. Kind of disproves the whole things being forced on Haley.

#2) Crennel was their first choice as DC, but he wasn't up to it in Haley's first year.

Do I think that Weis and Crennel hires were strongly encouraged? Yes. Do I think that they were forced on him? No. Do I think that Haley had any better alternatives that Pioli refused? No.

Heck, look at this year. McDaniels was available as OC. Weis had just quit, and the team still had Cassel under center.

If you are right, I believe that McDaniels would have come to KC. If Pioli was the control freak that you say, then why wouldn't McDaniels have been forced on Haley?

[BigMeatballDave]

LOL he took a shot at KC media

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

God, I can't believe I'm saying this but does anyone else think Todd would have been a better coach under Carl Peterson? King Carl for all his faults seem to let the coaches put their stamp on the team. I'm not saying he is a better GM at all, but I think Haley would have done better.

Marty, Gunther, Vermeil, Herm, each of their teams had the identity of the coach stamped all over it. I don't feel like this was ever a Haley stamped team. In fact the Haley reign was very schizophrenic. I still got the feeling I don't know what kind of coach Haley is and can be.

Have we really forgotten that Elvis Grbac was Peterson's Cassel? It would have been the same dynamic as Peterson was into saving his ass as GM and Haley still would have been a lunatic ego rookie with nothing in his past to back up the chest poof.

It MAY have taken a bit longer to go "Boom" but that is it.

[memyselfI]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

The ONLY person here that agrees with him is Denise. What does that tell you?

Tells me that there are at LEAST two people here not suckling off of Haley.