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Old 04-29-2012, 09:12 AM  
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Pioli Deserves Props

The NFL draft is a lot like Christmas morning. There is a lot of anticipation leading up to the big day, and when the time finally arrives to see what’s under the tree for us we can sometimes be a little disappointed.

We all remember the Christmas that we got everything we wanted. For Chiefs fans that was last year. We got a QB, WR, DBs, and LBs. Heck we even liked the more practical gifts like a Rodney Hudson. Frankly, the 2011 draft gave us a lot to play with, and we used them.

After a big year like 2011, some of you seem down. Sure we got the big present we always talk about (NT), but its’ not as cool as we thought it would be. We also ended up with some more practical gifts than we expected.

Here is how I view this draft, and to be honest I’m pretty stoked about it.

After having a draft like we did in 2011 where we seemed to hit on almost every pick, it wasn’t necessary for the Chiefs to snag additional pass rushers to sit behind guys like Hali and Houston. While we are still a little shallow when it comes to the safety position and could use some depth at center, the Chiefs are well positioned. In fact, I think the practicality of the 2012 Chiefs draft will allow them the flexibility in future drafts to aggressively seek out play makers to add to this team.

If there is one thing that I think Pioli deserves credit for, it’s rebuilding the Chiefs offensive live. While Albert was already hear when he arrived, Pioli not only filled a glaring hole at RT when he signed Eric Winston, but his last three drafts has set the Chiefs on a course to maintain a quality offensive line for years to come.

Many on this board recoiled at any suggestion that the Chiefs should use their first round pick on a lineman. After all the heated debates about the value of DeCastro, Pioli seems to agree with those who don’t want to invest first round picks on the line. Maybe instead of bitching that we didn’t have the Steelers’ draft, some of you should praise Pioli for doing exactly what you advocated for.

In the last three years, Pioli has taken four offensive linemen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds of the draft. Asamoah and Hudson are now starters. Jeff Allen is going to push Ryan Lilja for a starting spot at guard, but is more likely to be seasoned for a year before finding a permanent home on the life. I know it’s sometimes hard to get excited about the offensive line, but Pioli obviously has a process that seems to be working really well.

Picking back-to-back tackles isn’t as exciting as drafting guys like Justin Houston or Javier Arenas, but it feeds a system that can produce quality linemen that allows the Chiefs not use first round picks on offensive tackles, guards, or centers. It also means that the Chiefs will not be forced to commit free agent dollars on those positions either.

We are lucky to have landed Winston this offseason. Without him there would probably be no Poe. I like how Pioli is building this team. While I continue to be frustrated about Cassel, finding a franchise QB is never easy. We have had three solid drafts under Pioli and we can already see the results. Yes we need to find a QB, but at least we are building a strong team while we continue to look for him.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:07 PM   #286
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If Cassel goes down, even for only 4 games, we're ****ed, barring an extreme stroke of luck.
I agree actually.

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Old 04-29-2012, 04:08 PM   #287
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You're missing the point entirely. He was good enough THAT YEAR to get us to the playoffs. He made key plays in several games that a lesser QB would not have made.

We don't have a guy like that on the roster if Cassel goes down.

Unless you have blind faith in Dick Stanzi.
Look what the Ravens did to us in the playoffs **** that! Cassel got us destroyed because of his shitty play not the rest of the team. Charles couldn't carry the team by himself we needed a QB to throw the got damn ball.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:09 PM   #288
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:09 PM   #289
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We don't have a guy like that on the roster if Cassel goes down.
I would prefer Stanzi. If Cassel goes down, I'm cheering. If I wanna watch shitty QB play, I'd prefer it be from a 2nd yr QB.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:11 PM   #290
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:11 PM   #291
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Drew Bledsoe had a HUGE moment in the Pats championship run.

He threw for 102 yards and a TD in the AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME when Brady got hurt.

The Patriots won that game by ONE TOUCHDOWN.

Backup quarterbacks are important.

Oh yeah, and Bledsoe was the starter that season before Brady replaced him due to injury.

Still think backup quarterbacks aren't important?
I know what Bledsoe did, you moron. Let's talk Rohan Davey, Jim Sorgi and Jared Lorenzen, or the corpses of David Carr and Mark Brunell.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:12 PM   #292
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Dude that logic is so messed up. It seems like your requirement is to have Steve Young or Tom Brady as a backup. Hell, we don't even have that as a starter.
Did you miss the Jeff Hostetler and Bernie Kosar examples?
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I know what Bledsoe did, you moron. Let's talk Rohan Davey, Jim Sorgi and Jared Lorenzen, or the corpses of David Carr and Mark Brunell.
It doesn't matter.

You just don't know if your starter is gonna be healthy for all 16 games.

You're playing with fire if you're competing for a championship and don't have a guy that come in and play at a competent level.
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Are for real? Are kidding? Cassel goes down and that gives opportunity to Stanzi or Quinn to become starters and we can actually see improvement for the team. You are one dilusional man.
You have blind faith in Stanzi. More power to you, but the chances of him actually being a good QB are slim.

Why anyone would believe in Quinn?
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That's funny.

I'm better at my job than Pioli is at his.

And my grandmother is dead, asshole.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:18 PM   #298
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It doesn't matter.

You just don't know if your starter is gonna be healthy for all 16 games.

You're playing with fire if you're competing for a championship and don't have a guy that come in and play at a competent level.
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What? That's ****ing stupid. It's ****ing lunacy for a team to go into the year with no suitable backup QB. Why the **** do you think the 49ers went and got Steve Young even when they had Joe Montana?

I listed a bunch of Super Bowl winning teams who'd basically done just what you called lunacy. In the salary cap era, you have to save money somewhere. For a lot of teams, one area of savings is at backup QB.
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Old 04-29-2012, 04:19 PM   #299
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Huard had NOTHING to do with the playoffs.
You are basically saying Brodie Croyle could have thrown for 300 yards in a game that year, post a 100 QB rating and throw only one pick.

Do you realize how stupid you sound?
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If we play a hard schedule, so does the rest of the division. They cancel each other out for purposes of this topic.

While we do probably have the worst qb on paper, I believe we also have the most talent across the board in the division as well.

We should be a "perennial playoff contender" if that means we should be in the playoff hunt each year, despite the need for a quarterback.
Now, are you meaning we should be a perennial playoff contender just becasue we have that kind of ability, or we should be challenging for the AFC West title every year? Because those two things are not mutually exclusive, as that bloodbath loss to the Ravens in the playoffs here a couple of years ago demonstrates.
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