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Old 07-17-2012, 11:45 AM  
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How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's?
Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.


I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.


Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36


Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

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Old 07-17-2012, 07:51 PM   #286
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On pace to be something and already being something are two different things.

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I wish we traded two firsts, a second and a couple other picks for a wideout.
How you determine that they are on pace to be anything with such little playing time?
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Yeah I wish we would have picked the TE who had chronic back problems at the time.


That wouldn't have caused as stir.
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Yeah I wish we would have picked the TE who had chronic back problems at the time.


That wouldn't have caused as stir.
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I do, too, because if we had Julio Jones we probably win the division last year, and can afford to **** around with Bowe.
The talent gap between Jones and Baldwin is minuscule.

We got Baldwin AND Houston for the 23 pick.

They traded 22, 27, 59, 124, 118 for Jones.
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Obtuse much?
Well hell man, we can look back in the draft and do that shit all day.


I wish we would have taken Rodgers or Brady.


Cp would have exploded with Gronk and his back problems.
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Here's a better example of what I'm referring to when it comes to people overdoing it when it comes to the talent level on this team.






Jsp's response is spot on.

The bold is an alarming quote. On pace to be a difference maker, or already is one?

That's incredibly optimistic, and has no basis in reality.


Their performance in their rookie seasons doesn't lend to the argument that they are on pace to be starters or solid contributors? Whatever. Hudson killed, Bailey justified letting Gilbert walk, and with any develop to his run defense, could replace Dorsey. Baldwin showed potential to be a star with a floor of reliable starter. And so on.

Maybe you are reading too much into "difference maker"
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The talent gap between Jones and Baldwin is minuscule.

We got Baldwin AND Houston for the 23 pick.

They traded 22, 27, 59, 124, 118 for Jones.
Baldwin hasn't done shit man.



I'm optimistic but this is crazy.
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LOL Allen Bailey made 10 tackles and 1 sack last year.


Really that's the standard of a good pick?
He also provided PLENTY of pressure for a 4th round rookie DE in a 3-4.
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The talent gap between Jones and Baldwin is minuscule.
Yeah, and one was a mother****ing stud, while one was a dud.

Jon Baldwin could be Mike Williams for all we know.

I'm guessing Jones is the next elite deep threat in this league. He is seriously, seriously sick and he's gonna face constant single coverage for at least one more year.
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He also provided PLENTY of pressure for a 4th round rookie DE in a 3-4.
Keep reaching.
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Hudson killed
Rodney Hudson played 136 snaps in basically 3 games.

We don't know what the hell he is.
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