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Old 08-02-2013, 08:44 AM  
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What if Fisher sucks at RT?
Who replaces him there? Stephenson, Schwartz, Allen???

I know he's a rookie, but from what I've been hearing is that he's been struggling in 1on1 drills etc. I know he's switching sides which can be a factor, esp at that high of a level expecting to do as well as you would from your strong side. But should an overall#1 pick be struggling like this, esp at an important position to where he kinda has to be thrown to the wolves early?

And if he ends up having a shitty season. Does this team invest in another tackle early in the draft again next season or go FA? That would drive this board ****in nuts LOL.
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Old 08-04-2013, 12:53 PM   #286
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I think a lot of his struggles are coming from playing RT instead of LT.

I don't like Mark Schlereth, but I did like his analogy he used at the SB to describe the Ravens moving OL around. He said it's like a right handed batter switching to the left side. It's just not easy to adapt to because your stance and technique is switched to the other side.

It's like Fisher was a dominant left handed hitter in college that is now batting right handed and playing against professionals.

I think he'll adapt though. The kid has supreme athleticism for his position and he's a hard worker with smarts. He was a goddamn engineering major for crying out loud. He'll get this shit down. He just needs practice.

Can't expect the guy to be a bust because he's struggling at a new position the first week of camp.
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Old 08-04-2013, 12:58 PM   #287
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I think a lot of his struggles are coming from playing RT instead of LT.

I don't like Mark Schlereth, but I did like his analogy he used at the SB to describe the Ravens moving OL around. He said it's like a right handed batter switching to the left side. It's just not easy to adapt to because your stance and technique is switched to the other side.

It's like Fisher was a dominant left handed hitter in college that is now batting right handed and playing against professionals.

I think he'll adapt though. The kid has supreme athleticism for his position and he's a hard worker with smarts. He was a goddamn engineering major for crying out loud. He'll get this shit down. He just needs practice.

Can't expect the guy to be a bust because he's struggling at a new position the first week of camp.
It's a bit of an oversimplification. Changing from lefty to righty batting or throwing is extremely difficult. Every part of your body is doing different things.

Moving from Left to Right Tackle, you're doing the same things, you just have to retrain your muscle memory to do the right things. Fisher doesn't have to be trained much to play the Right side, he just needs a very small amount of time to practice constant repetition of the muscle movements.
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:06 PM   #288
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Will Shields switched to left tackle for a game in 1998 or 2000 or something and was ****ing perfect.

I don't give a shit. I expect Eric Fisher to be a badass this year at whatever position he plays. He was the #1 overall ****ing pick, and that demands greatness.

No excuses, or I start calling him Cartman.
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:30 PM   #290
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If we had a rookie quarterback and he struggled everybody would be saying bust. Gotta love the double standard around here.
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:34 PM   #291
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Slightly better than Matt Kalil last year given draft position. Similar teams as well.
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:35 PM   #292
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He was the first pick in the draft, there's no lowering expectations at this point.
Not lowering expectations. He's still gonna be a very good player, but expecting any LT to come in as a rookie and play a different position and own everyone in the first week of camp is laughable.
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Slightly better than Matt Kalil last year given draft position. Similar teams as well.
Kalil is way a better prospect than Fisher. Not even close.
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Old 08-04-2013, 01:38 PM   #294
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Kalil is way a better prospect than Fisher. Not even close.
So whats the reasonable expectation of a "prospect" of Fishers level?
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Kalil is way a better prospect than Fisher. Not even close.
Agreed.


Kalil wasn't drafted at 1.1 though. For me, if Fisher isn't comparable with Kalil's production, then he wont meet my expectations.
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So whats the reasonable expectation of a "prospect" of Fishers level?
At RT? Start week 1 and play well. Nothing too complicated.
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Agreed.


Kalil wasn't drafted at 1.1 though. For me, if Fisher isn't comparable with Kalil's production, then he wont meet my expectations.
Was Joeckel in that category?
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At RT? Start week 1 and play well. Nothing too complicated.
I agree.
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So whats the reasonable expectation of a "prospect" of Fishers level?
Talent wise he is Bryan Bulaga type. Draft position wise says he better be Tony Boseli or Orlando Pace.

Realistically he needs to between some where in between.
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Talent wise he is Bryan Bulaga type. Draft position wise says he better be Tony Boseli or Orlando Pace.

Realistically he needs to between some where in between.
I think they have thrown Joe Thomas around as a ceiling comparison. I'm more than OK with that if he gets there.
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