Chiefs 6-10 Team with Chase Daniel - Page 20

Prison Bitch · 12-28-2014, 05:15 PM

Someone at the game today made a comment that we should play Chase Daniel next year and "get rid of that clown Smith". Like always, I wanted to see what the data suggests.

We have almost no sample size for Daniel as he's played 2 games. We have a large sample size for Alex though. QB rating is extremely correlated to wins in the NFL. The average rating is 84: a team can expect an additional win (or loss) moving approximately 6 points from the median. Alex had a 93 rating and Daniel had a 75 rating today. That's an implied swing of 3 full games if we assume static performance.

While there is no way to know if Daniel would perform differently over the course of a season, it's doubtful any teams (or our own coaching staff) believe he could. Else, he'd be picked up as a starter. Whether Chiefs fans see any value finishing 9-7 vs 6-10 if you miss the playoffs regardless is another discussion.

GoChargers · 12-29-2014, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

That game wasn't on him in any way, shape or form. I blame the defense and Sutton for that one. And Reid.

And you blame Rodgers and Brady every time they lose in the playoffs.

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Hootie · 12-29-2014, 12:50 AM

Kaepernick in that postseason was incredible, as well. Shit, I think Kaep is going to be awesome next year when his new coach lets him run the read option again. He'll be a steal in fantasy and the 49ers will win 10-12 games.

Harbaugh tanked the season as a **** you to his bosses. He's a ****ing prick. There is no explanation for the 49ers refusing to run read option other than Harbaugh's ego towards his bosses.

I bet everyone is back on the Kaepernick bandwagon next year when he's running the read option again.

GoChargers · 12-29-2014, 12:51 AM

A quarterback that can only run the read option and can't be trusted in the pocket in a pro-style offense is a gimmick at this level. Kraepernick sucks ass.

Hootie · 12-29-2014, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

And you blame Rodgers and Brady every time they lose in the playoffs.

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No, see, you're wrong.

Those two threads you reference ... the only purpose they serve for me (and I've stated this) is to show the board its hypocrisy towards Peyton Manning.

This board TRULY does blame every postseason loss on Peyton Manning. Any time he loses, no matter what, he chokes.

My only question was (and still is) why is it different for the other elite QB's?

And it'll never be answered because there isn't an answer. I'm here to balance it all out.

Of course, someone just told me since Russell lost that game to the Falcons he could not have been clutch, you know, since he lost.

So it's a lost cause on this board.

GoChargers · 12-29-2014, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

This board TRULY does blame every postseason loss on Peyton Manning. Any time he loses, no matter what, he chokes.

The thread I posted clearly shows that Fivehead has choked every single time.

Hootie · 12-29-2014, 12:55 AM

Kaepernick does ****ing suck as a pocket only QB. Totally agree.

Once you give him back the play he's ran his entire life, it changes. There is no explanation for why the 49ers didn't use that play this year. None. And I can promise you the next guy is going to make it their base offense, just like Seattle. Shit, the 49ers would be smart to hire Bevell. In fact, I bet they do.

Hootie · 12-29-2014, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers

The thread I posted clearly shows that Fivehead has choked every single time.

and I can match every Manning "choke" with a Brady "choke"

I've proved it. Time for you to move on.

RobBlake · 12-29-2014, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Kaepernick does ****ing suck as a pocket only QB. Totally agree.

Once you give him back the play he's ran his entire life, it changes. There is no explanation for why the 49ers didn't use that play this year. None. And I can promise you the next guy is going to make it their base offense, just like Seattle. Shit, the 49ers would be smart to hire Bevell. In fact, I bet they do.

Bevell completely caters to his QB strengths like a real OC should do

GoChargers · 12-29-2014, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Kaepernick does ****ing suck as a pocket only QB. Totally agree.

Once you give him back the play he's ran his entire life, it changes. There is no explanation for why the 49ers didn't use that play this year. None. And I can promise you the next guy is going to make it their base offense, just like Seattle. Shit, the 49ers would be smart to hire Bevell. In fact, I bet they do.

The read option is a gimmick. Pro-style pocket passing is what has consistently worked for the long haul. Always has, always will. Defenses are just too good for anything else. And Kraepernick sucks at it.

Hootie · 12-29-2014, 12:58 AM

in order, here are the QB's I'd take in 2015 (1 year only - not considering future)

1. Wilson
2. Rodgers
3. Brady
4. P. Manning
5. Romo
6. Roethlisberger
7. Brees
8. Rivers
9. Luck
10. E. Manning

RobBlake · 12-29-2014, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Kaepernick in that postseason was incredible, as well. Shit, I think Kaep is going to be awesome next year when his new coach lets him run the read option again. He'll be a steal in fantasy and the 49ers will win 10-12 games.

Harbaugh tanked the season as a **** you to his bosses. He's a ****ing prick. There is no explanation for the 49ers refusing to run read option other than Harbaugh's ego towards his bosses.

I bet everyone is back on the Kaepernick bandwagon next year when he's running the read option again.

i don't think he intentionally did it cause he loves his players.. but the drama that York let out was too much on a team that lost in major games consecutive years in a row.. way to draining on a team.. esp. with the browns trade fiasco to start the season.

The rule changes kind of hurt niners offense.. and Roger hates seein his cheeseheads getting torched everytime they play the niners

Hootie · 12-29-2014, 01:00 AM

Seattle runs 1/2 of their plays out of the read option. They run and throw out of the read option. It's not the wildcat. It's here for good.

No explanation on why the 49ers stopped using it. Like I said, Harbaugh is a bitter little prick and tanked the season.

kcxiv · 12-29-2014, 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Kaepernick in that postseason was incredible, as well. Shit, I think Kaep is going to be awesome next year when his new coach lets him run the read option again. He'll be a steal in fantasy and the 49ers will win 10-12 games.

Harbaugh tanked the season as a **** you to his bosses. He's a ****ing prick. There is no explanation for the 49ers refusing to run read option other than Harbaugh's ego towards his bosses.

I bet everyone is back on the Kaepernick bandwagon next year when he's running the read option again.

Niners has so many injuries this season, they stood little chance.

Hootie · 12-29-2014, 01:05 AM

Cris Collinsworth asked the same question on the SNF game against the Seahawks ...

why did they scrap the read option?

They NEVER run it anymore.

It doesn't make any sense.

RobBlake · 12-29-2014, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Seattle runs 1/2 of their plays out of the read option. They run and throw out of the read option. It's not the wildcat. It's here for good.

No explanation on why the 49ers stopped using it. Like I said, Harbaugh is a bitter little prick and tanked the season.

rule changes, oline issues, injuries, trying to make kap a pocket passer... too many to list.. and stupid philosophy of conserving the offense until playoffs

12-28-2014, 05:15 PM
Prison Bitch Rabbi Goldmann Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $5450159	6-10 Team with Chase Daniel Someone at the game today made a comment that we should play Chase Daniel next year and "get rid of that clown Smith". Like always, I wanted to see what the data suggests. We have almost no sample size for Daniel as he's played 2 games. We have a large sample size for Alex though. QB rating is extremely correlated to wins in the NFL. The average rating is 84: a team can expect an additional win (or loss) moving approximately 6 points from the median. Alex had a 93 rating and Daniel had a 75 rating today. That's an implied swing of 3 full games if we assume static performance. While there is no way to know if Daniel would perform differently over the course of a season, it's doubtful any teams (or our own coaching staff) believe he could. Else, he'd be picked up as a starter. Whether Chiefs fans see any value finishing 9-7 vs 6-10 if you miss the playoffs regardless is another discussion.
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12-29-2014, 12:50 AM	#287
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Kaepernick in that postseason was incredible, as well. Shit, I think Kaep is going to be awesome next year when his new coach lets him run the read option again. He'll be a steal in fantasy and the 49ers will win 10-12 games. Harbaugh tanked the season as a ** you to his bosses. He's a **ing prick. There is no explanation for the 49ers refusing to run read option other than Harbaugh's ego towards his bosses. I bet everyone is back on the Kaepernick bandwagon next year when he's running the read option again.
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GoChargers Dean Spanos is a Traitor Join Date: Oct 2012 Casino cash: $10013554	A quarterback that can only run the read option and can't be trusted in the pocket in a pro-style offense is a gimmick at this level. Kraepernick sucks ass. __________________ Disclaimer: my username refers to the SAN DIEGO Chargers only. I will never cheer for the LA Chargers as long as the Spanos family owns the team.
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12-29-2014, 12:55 AM	#291
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Kaepernick does ****ing suck as a pocket only QB. Totally agree. Once you give him back the play he's ran his entire life, it changes. There is no explanation for why the 49ers didn't use that play this year. None. And I can promise you the next guy is going to make it their base offense, just like Seattle. Shit, the 49ers would be smart to hire Bevell. In fact, I bet they do.
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12-29-2014, 12:58 AM	#295
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	in order, here are the QB's I'd take in 2015 (1 year only - not considering future) 1. Wilson 2. Rodgers 3. Brady 4. P. Manning 5. Romo 6. Roethlisberger 7. Brees 8. Rivers 9. Luck 10. E. Manning
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12-29-2014, 01:00 AM	#297
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Seattle runs 1/2 of their plays out of the read option. They run and throw out of the read option. It's not the wildcat. It's here for good. No explanation on why the 49ers stopped using it. Like I said, Harbaugh is a bitter little prick and tanked the season.
Posts: 56,356

12-29-2014, 01:05 AM	#299
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Cris Collinsworth asked the same question on the SNF game against the Seahawks ... why did they scrap the read option? They NEVER run it anymore. It doesn't make any sense.
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