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Old 11-02-2015, 05:00 PM  
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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 02-17-2016, 03:09 PM   #3016
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Or some people just like to have some fun and join in on some camaraderie and are so situated that $100 is not a huge deal to them. Or the idiot thing. Whichever.
I can think of 100 things I would rather spend $100 on than give it to Hootie to gamble on football.
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Old 02-17-2016, 03:11 PM   #3017
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I can think of 100 things I would rather spend $100 on than give it to Hootie to gamble on football.
Well, in hindsight, me to. Lol
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Old 02-17-2016, 03:13 PM   #3018
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Given the news stories about how rigged Daily Fantasy Sports really are, did Hootie even really "lose" everyone's money, or did a group of CP members agree to piss away that cash on something they had virtually no chance of turning a profit- let alone break even?
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Old 02-17-2016, 03:14 PM   #3019
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I mean... Do you guys realize how far $100 goes at Glitter Gultch on Fremont St in Vegas?
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Old 02-17-2016, 03:16 PM   #3020
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DFS is like any form of gambling. The odds are against you but if you enjoy games of chance with your money, it's fun to try. BTW, I finished in 1st in a DFS baseball tourney last year so a blind squirrel can find a nut once in awhile with those things. It wasn't one of the huge ones but it at least covered my "Hootie throw away money".
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Old 02-17-2016, 03:17 PM   #3021
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I mean... Do you guys realize how far $100 goes at Glitter Gultch on Fremont St in Vegas?
Bahahahaha
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Old 02-17-2016, 03:19 PM   #3022
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Old 02-17-2016, 03:26 PM   #3023
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Maybe but he was our Idiot. He could defend his point to the end and other than having total disdain for those who didn't see it his way had interesting takes. He kept it lively and learned a lot from him as all others here. I will miss him this season.
Who could've ever predicted he'd make bad decisions and then blame others? That just doesn't sound like the guy I knew
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Old 02-17-2016, 03:49 PM   #3024
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Lately yes with all thats going on there and when Jack Harry is on they go at it pretty hard.
LOL, really? I havem't heard his show for probably close to a year, but then it was all about how he wouldn't talk about Mizzou since they went SEC
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Old 02-17-2016, 04:08 PM   #3025
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Oh he is talking now just not good lol
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Old 02-18-2016, 12:16 AM   #3026
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Yeah, I wasn't privy to the story, just heard it second-hand. I still talk to Rick a bit on Twitter. I know he wasn't doing anything other than what he thought was best. Think things just got heated because people disagreed with money on the line.

Daily fantasy is a gigantic scam, guys. Don't do it.

Putting money into daily fantasy is like sitting down to play Texas Hold Em with pros (and in many cases, you're going against the same guys).
I WAS privy to the story, and I can tell you EXACTLY what happened.

I was one of the members of the group you referred to. We all threw in $100 to bet on FanDuel in their million dollar contest. Hootie had a good idea with a strategy that actually sounded sort of interesting, so we decided to give it a try. There was a total of 50 of us in the group (including Hootie), so the total betting pool was $5000. The idea was to have a few fantasy football gurus take the pot and make hundreds of lineups, with the hope that one of the lineups would hit it big. We were basically going to imitate the strategies that the pros use to win at DFS.

We all knew there was a high probabiity that we would wind up losing all of the money. Eventually we did.

Losing the money wasn't the issue. Hootie got banned because:
  1. He decided that the rules we all agreed to as a group did not apply to him.
  2. After a few weeks, he announced that he was going to violate the most important rule of the group. He was going to submit some lineups on his own that matched lineups submitted by the group. If one of those lineups happened to be a big winner, Hootie would have raked 50% off the top. He had some bullshit justification for doing it: He said Fanduel offered him some free entries into the contest, and that he had no way of knowing they would make him such a fabulous offer, and there was no way he wasn't going to take them up on it, blah blah blah blah blah. You know how Hootie is when starts filibustering.
  3. Everyone said "Dude, you can't do that. This was your ****ing rule to begin with, and we all agreed to it. If you intentionally violate this rule, you will be kicked out." What that meant was that he would no longer be in charge of setting lineups or making any decisions.
  4. At that point Hootie went full reerun. Anyone who is familiar with Hootie understands what that means. He's like the Terminator. He can't be reasoned with, he can't be bargained with, and he absolutely will not stop. When he was told that he'd be kicked out of the group if he did that, he told everyone to **** off , announced that he was quitting the group, and he accused the group of stealing HIS money.
  5. If he had just left it there, it would have been fine. But he just couldn't do that. There was an agreement among everyone that we would leave Fanduel Forum business in that private forum. That's why the private Fanduel forum was created in the first place. But Hootie wasn't satisfied with melting down in the private forum. He felt the need to bring it into the Lounge. He started a thread in the Lounge and made a bunch of false accusations. I'm sure he didn't see it that way, but the fact is that he lied. He lied when he said everyone stole his money. He lied when he accused two moderators of being part of the conspiracy to steal his money.
  6. The two moderators in the group decided they'd had enough of his shit, and Hootie was banned. It was as simple as that. In retrospect, it was totally predictable.
I was sorry that he got himself banned. I enjoyed reading his posts in this thread, and I enjoyed arguing with him.

The fact is that Hootie has been banned from this site many times before. He always comes crawling back with a promise that he'll behave better this time. It was inevitable that he would be banned again. If he hadn't been banned for this, he would have found some other way to get himself banned. That's what Hootie does.

I will say that I completely agree with your comment about DFS. It is a scam. One week the winner of the million dollar pool had just joined the site a couple of days prior to the pool, and had made a total of 5 entries. One of the entries came in first place, and the other came in third. I found it very hard to believe that the game was honest when I saw that. To me, the $100 was an interesting experiment, a cheap way to learn a lot about DFS, and a lesson about what a scam it truly is. I had opened up an account on DraftKings and was thinking about giving it a try. After I saw how the game truly works, I cancelled my account without ever placing a bet.
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Old 02-18-2016, 12:23 AM   #3027
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Yep. Good recap Lex. I had forgotten about some of that. Also a good point on DFS. I failed to mention that since our experiment, I have not spent a dime on DFS either. I have won a little but I don't think regular Joes can win the big pots.
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Old 02-18-2016, 12:23 AM   #3028
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Or some people just like to have some fun and join in on some camaraderie and are so situated that $100 is not a huge deal to them. Or the idiot thing. Whichever.
Remember that time there was a big discussion over if/how much should be donated to CP if we won $100K, 250K or 500K+? That was fun.
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I mean... Do you guys realize how far $100 goes at Glitter Gultch on Fremont St in Vegas?


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Old 02-18-2016, 01:10 AM   #3030
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I mean... Do you guys realize how far $100 goes at Glitter Gultch on Fremont St in Vegas?
I'm still traumatized by the day shift at Glitter Gulch. I can't speak of the things I saw there.
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