KU ***** Official 2017-2018 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ***** - Page 204

saphojunkie · 09:44 AM

**** the elite 8. Final Four or bust, baby.

Will update as people declare for the draft/transfer/commit

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**Bearcat** · 03-20-2018, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Lay off KCC.

Penn was a tough draw. Seaton Hall was a tough out. I don’t think he was trolling too hard.

KU has laid a lot of eggs in years past that would have gotten us beat.

Let it go man.

Another 16 won and another 8/9 beat a 1... two 2 seeds are out, two 3 seeds are out, and three 4 seeds are out.

I think we all know the tournament is hard. You could even say it's a crapshoot.

Crunching numbers and talking matchups is interesting. Doing it in a clickbait/trolling sort of way is dumb and gets old quickly, especially when a lot of what is being presented isn't just chicken little hyperbole, it's entirely false.

O.city · 03-20-2018, 11:27 AM

"You're either going to do it his way or no way. I don't give a damn if you're Kobe Bryant.”

How countless conversations with his father helped #KUbball guard Malik Newman figure out how to play for Bill Self... https://t.co/4eizisY6hL pic.twitter.com/UVn1UwUuf6
— Matt Tait (@mctait) March 20, 2018

**Lzen** · 03-20-2018, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

"You're either going to do it his way or no way. I don't give a damn if you're Kobe Bryant.”

How countless conversations with his father helped #KUbball guard Malik Newman figure out how to play for Bill Self... https://t.co/4eizisY6hL pic.twitter.com/UVn1UwUuf6
— Matt Tait (@mctait) March 20, 2018

I really like how his dad didn't coddle him. Totally different than guys such as Connor Frankamp's old man.

KC_Connection · 03-20-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds?

Edit: I forgot about the injury to Haas(sp?). But nowhere in that post did you mention the injury.

I'm aware, but it is actually true. There is a wide gulf between Duke and Purdue. It's about the same as the difference between Purdue (#4) and North Carolina (#8). In Bearcut's rush to refute KenPom/that our road is the toughest, he somehow missed that.

Haas' injury is definitely a thing, but the difference between Duke and Purdue even with him there is significant.

KC_Connection · 03-20-2018, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Another 16 won and another 8/9 beat a 1... two 2 seeds are out, two 3 seeds are out, and three 4 seeds are out.

And yet some were saying that a 16 wouldn't win against Kansas just because it has never happened before. A Penn loss was very much in the realm of possibilities, more so than it has ever been with KU against a #16 seed. Fortunately they played a decent game and got out of it all right, but I think anybody watching that game (especially at the beginning) saw how Penn's style could have proven difficult for this team had they played a poor one.

And Seton Hall was a damn good team whose strength (offensive rebounding) played very well against perhaps our biggest weakness (allowing offensive rebounding). That should have been apparent to everyone watching that game as well.

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I think we all know the tournament is hard. You could even say it's a crapshoot.

Crunching numbers and talking matchups is interesting. Doing it in a clickbait/trolling sort of way is dumb and gets old quickly, especially when a lot of what is being presented isn't just chicken little hyperbole, it's entirely false.

Despite what you may wish to think, I'm afraid there's nothing false about stating now that Clemson is basically a 50/50 game for this team and that KU has the toughest road remaining to the final.

**Lzen** · 03-20-2018, 12:23 PM

KCC, you always talk about how other teams have a rebounding advantage because we play 4 guards. But you neglect to mention how that 4th guard is a matchup nightmare on the defensive end for the opponent.

Also, I don't see how Duke is this juggernaut you make them out to be. They lost 7 games just the same as KU.

BWillie · 03-20-2018, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DJay23

Some statistics from an article I just read:

So far this season, Clemson has held its opponents to 43.8-percent shooting on 2-pointers (eighth nationally), but allowed 34.9-percent shooting on opponents’ 3-pointers (181st).

Kansas ranks 16th in the country in 2-point field-goal percentage (54.1 percent), and enters its matchup with Clemson shooting 40.3 percent from 3-point range (11th nationally).

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2018/m...-tigers-omaha/

I like this matchup, I don't care what Kenpom says. We don't shoot 2's well anyway, and we don't shoot alot of them. So what they are good at defending, we don't even like to do.

They can't score well at the rim (we don't have much protection down there). They also aren't a particularly good rebounding team, something we can't do. We are going to roll these fools

**Buehler445** · 03-20-2018, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

KCC, you always talk about how other teams have a rebounding advantage because we play 4 guards. But you neglect to mention how that 4th guard is a matchup nightmare on the defensive end for the opponent.

Also, I don't see how Duke is this juggernaut you make them out to be. They lost 7 games just the same as KU.

Puke as much as I hate to say it is playing good ball.

Bagley appears to be a ****ing manimal

Prison Bitch · 03-20-2018, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

Lay off KCC.

Penn was a tough draw. Seaton Hall was a tough out. I don’t think he was trolling too hard.

KU has laid a lot of eggs in years past that would have gotten us beat.

Let it go man.

Nope. He hadn't seen Penn or Seton play this year, he added nothing to the analysis other than posting KenPom data. He also said Auburn was good even tho they've sucked for a month. He knows nothing.

**Buehler445** · 03-20-2018, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Another 16 won and another 8/9 beat a 1... two 2 seeds are out, two 3 seeds are out, and three 4 seeds are out.

I think we all know the tournament is hard. You could even say it's a crapshoot.

Crunching numbers and talking matchups is interesting. Doing it in a clickbait/trolling sort of way is dumb and gets old quickly, especially when a lot of what is being presented isn't just chicken little hyperbole, it's entirely false.

Meh. I’m not all enveloped in Kenpoms stuff to see the egregiousness of his cherry picking.

Even if he is hyperbole (not that I necessarily believe it is) he was far less screaming it from the rooftops as he was Ellis being soft and worthless or Trailor being a lump or any number of things (not that I believe those were pure hyperbole either)

cmh6476 · 03-20-2018, 01:25 PM

I'm skipping a couple pages of reading. We are going to lose again, correct?

DJay23 · 03-20-2018, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

I like this matchup, I don't care what Kenpom says. We don't shoot 2's well anyway, and we don't shoot alot of them. So what they are good at defending, we don't even like to do.

They can't score well at the rim (we don't have much protection down there). They also aren't a particularly good rebounding team, something we can't do. We are going to roll these fools

I get the same sense looking at those statistics.

But it is March and we have had advantages like this before that went to waste for whatever tragically cosmic reason.

**Bearcat** · 03-20-2018, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Nope. He hadn't seen Penn or Seton play this year, he added nothing to the analysis other than posting KenPom data. He also said Auburn was good even tho they've sucked for a month. He knows nothing.

Kiimo · 03-20-2018, 03:15 PM

Okay so this thread is huge but did anyone point out that of Delgado’s 24 and 23 game, 20 and 15 of them came when Dok was on the bench.

So he had 4 and 8 against Dok. Wow.

**BigRedChief** · 03-20-2018, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Okay so this thread is huge but did anyone point out that of Delgado’s 24 and 23 game, 20 and 15 of them came when Dok was on the bench.

So he had 4 and 8 against Dok. Wow.

Doke is a force to be reckoned with. Next year l expect him to be a monster. He is basically learning how to rebound on the fly.

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