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Old 03-01-2023, 11:01 AM  
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Figured we could get one of these going as well.

Who's some guys we like, would like to see in KC?
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Old 03-25-2023, 08:59 PM   #3046
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Amazing how much Seattle has made a quick rebound due to the Russ trade. They added some really nice moves and have 3 top 50 picks including pick 5.
Do you remember when the NBA rescinded the Chris Paul to the Lakers trade? It's a wonder the NFL didn't step in here and come down hard on the Seahawks for butt ****ing the donx the way they did. I don't think anyone really believes that Paton is THAT stupid, but who knows.
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Old 03-25-2023, 11:49 PM   #3047
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Old 03-26-2023, 05:44 AM   #3048
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Jackson caught lightning in a bottle in '19, winning the MVP, in large part to his running ability. The last 3 years he's been a 92.5 rated QB that hasn't reached 3K yards passing or 30 tds in a season. That's average and he's not good in the playoffs. Now he's coming off 2 straight years of leg injuries. What owner in their right mind is going to pay him elite money, mostly guaranteed?

It would have to take a dumb one to do that, at this point. I could see 5 for 250M with 100M guaranteed and a 50M signing bonus but i'd still be really worried about that length of contract.
Oh, no part of me would give him anything near the Watson deal (and don’t get me started on that one). I think he can be good used in certain systems but it’s absolutely not for everyone.

The Kyler Murray contract with 160mm guaranteed is the starting point though, so I imagine he’ll get 180-200mm guaranteed on a 5/250 deal when the dust settles.
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Old 03-26-2023, 05:52 AM   #3049
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Oh, no part of me would give him anything near the Watson deal (and don’t get me started on that one). I think he can be good used in certain systems but it’s absolutely not for everyone.

The Kyler Murray contract with 160mm guaranteed is the starting point though, so I imagine he’ll get 180-200mm guaranteed on a 5/250 deal when the dust settles.
The Murry deal was idiotic.
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Old 03-26-2023, 07:32 AM   #3050
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Amazing how much Seattle has made a quick rebound due to the Russ trade. They added some really nice moves and have 3 top 50 picks including pick 5.
Our beloved chiefs are working on a small scale version with the tyreek trade. But it sure helps when Seattle knows better than anyone that Russ was a system qb
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Old 03-26-2023, 07:44 AM   #3051
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The Murry deal was idiotic.
And Russel Wilson got 160mm guaranteed.

You can say it's idiotic but the market is the market.
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Old 03-26-2023, 02:53 PM   #3052
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And Russel Wilson got 160mm guaranteed.

You can say it's idiotic but the market is the market.
Market for what? QBs that aren't going to win ANYTHING in the future? Why would ANY team be dumb enough to give these guys huge deals?
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Old 03-26-2023, 02:57 PM   #3053
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Market for what? QBs that aren't going to win ANYTHING in the future? Why would ANY team be dumb enough to give these guys huge deals?
Guys like Mahomes are the outlier. They aren’t out there and easy to find. 5 years of Pat have warped some of your guys minds when it comes to actual QB play.
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Old 03-26-2023, 03:08 PM   #3054
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Guys like Mahomes are the outlier. They aren’t out there and easy to find. 5 years of Pat have warped some of your guys minds when it comes to actual QB play.
You would have been on board with trading for Wilson and extending him at that cost? Watson? Murray?

Outside of Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Hurts, and maybe Herbert, I'm not paying anywhere NEAR that much to keep one of these also-rans.
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You would have been on board with trading for Wilson and extending him at that cost? Watson? Murray?

Outside of Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, Hurts, and maybe Herbert, I'm not paying anywhere NEAR that much to keep one of these also-rans.
In fairness Cleveland was 100% pigeon holed.
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And Russel Wilson got 160mm guaranteed.

You can say it's idiotic but the market is the market.
Until it’s not.
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The QB market is getting worse not better, I present Daniel Jones.
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Until it’s not.
Really deep thoughts on your part.

I bet with Herbert and Burrow also on the verge of extensions this situation is likely to turn around quickly.
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You aren’t beating Mahomes/Andy/Veach unless you have that guy at QB and even then the odds are stacked against you.

It’s fun to be on this side of a whats looking like a dynasty.
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Really deep thoughts on your part.

I bet with Herbert and Burrow also on the verge of extensions this situation is likely to turn around quickly.
And you know they are going to want to reset the QB market by going off -Mahomes deal plus percentage of cap increase since then- as the starting point of negotiations from the players agents side.

They won’t get that much, but I won’t be shocked if Burrows deal is something like 5/280 with 175 fully guaranteed.
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